People who don't resign

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netzach

Guess somebody got a warning and impatient afterwards.

humans1981

Internet is a funny place.

I never won on time in an OTB.

People should learn that 10 seconds in a Blitzgame can be more than a pawn or even a piece.

And we are speaking about a blitzgame here.

1,3 or 5 minute games means nothing other than you lose(draw) when your time is over. So now i told you the big secret about blitzgames.

You don´t deserve the win, when you have a huge advantage and can´t deliver checkmate in 1,3 or 5 minutes, that´s all.

You invested to much time to get to your huge advantage, you were to greedy.

If you lack on technique to promote a pawn in technical endgames, you also don´t deserve the win. etc.

badger_song

As William Munny said in "Unforgiven".....

 

"Deserve's got nothin' to do with it."

Soorat92
Fear_the_Queen wrote:
montemaur wrote:

If I'm a piece or two down or I blunder my queen, I won't resign, because I feel the practice of trying to fight out of the difficult positions that I'm going to be in put in makes me a better player...

This couldn't be farther from the truth!! Every second you spend on a lost cause learning nothing of value is a second that you should be spending on a new game. It's not rocket science.

 

I can't stand people who don't resign. As soon as I realise what is happening I usually drag out the game for long as possible by both moving intentionally slowly and underpromoting. Obviously I never play these people again.

So you should quit the second you're down on material???

I understand your point if the game is obviously lost - but how will you improve if you can't try to come back from a position you're behind in if there is still a chance you might recover?

I resign if my position is obviously lost - but I have come back to win games when I've made silly mistakes early enough on for me to think out a strategy to gain back some positional advantage - and ultimately make gains on material

These games have taken a lot of thought - but have given me insight to grow as a player - if I just quit every time I lose material - I feel an opportunity to improve my game would be wasted

Wilbert_78

I agree with Soorat, on my level it is important to do these endgames. Half the time the person playing me can't mate me with a rook and a king. Sometimes they blunder. More often than not, when I lose a minor piece, I actually start paying attention and playing above my normal level. Just because I need to focus so much more, because I need to find a weakness and take advantage of it. Winning these games is the best feeling I can get from chess. Things changes when I see I will be getting checkmated in 3 moves. But even then, when the opponont was sportive and overall nice, I give them the honour of finishing me off :)

HattrickStinkyduiker

I don't mind people playing on completely lost positions, especially in blitz.

@OP: you're 1900 otb, but when playing blitz at 1500 you'll probably face some players who never played anywhere near that level. They might encounter stalemates a lot, maybe they don't even know that it's lost.

See it as an excersize to find the quickest win, might be useful later if you end up in a similar position with only 15 seconds left.

If you think your opponent is just playing on to waste time, you can always underpromote to rub it in.

 

idc about not resigning, what's really annoying is players who play it out till you have mate in one and then just let their time run out.

badger_song

Merits of this thread aside,I find the rationalizations used by those who won't resign,even when their position compares unfavorably with that of Custer at the Little Big Horn,to be very interesting..and amusing.

netzach

Playing on (endgame practise overconfidence errors etc is absolutely fine).

Timeouts are bad-form and especially hypocritical from a 'champ' whinging in a forum about non-resigners.

Another reason c/c players will play on or delay is awaiting results of cheating complaint and perfectly justified to do this.

Wilbert_78

Lol... and I find the difference between the 2000 rating in online and the 1400-1500 rating live stunning. Might just be me.

Cravingollie

The thing that i really really hate is when your 1 move away from checkmate and theres nothing your opponent can do to stop it and when you take their queen in a fork or somthing instead of resigning the people i play just x out of their tab and it says " (Insert player name) HAS DISCONNECTED THEY HAVE 5 MIN TO RETURN" WAY TOO MANY PEOPLE I PLAY DO THIS AND ITS SOO ANNOYING, I WAITED 15 MINUITES JUST SO I CAN CHECKMATE HIM WITH 1 MOVE, and my opponenet even came back then left just so i had to wait even longer. -_-

x-2137697927
NomadicKnight wrote:

Sometimes you want to stalemate... and sometimes your opponent made rude and/or childish comments in the chat during the game so you just want to tie him up as long as possible out of spite 

possibly!

badger_song

Well,devesation,you and NomadicKnight have probably identified the superficial reason for "non-resignation". As to the deeper reason,thats even more unpleasant.

Wilbert_78
Fear_the_Queen wrote:
Wilbert_78 wrote:

Lol... and I find the difference between the 2000 rating in online and the 1400-1500 rating live stunning. Might just be me.

You can probably count on your hands how many of these players you have played. That hardly qualifies you to make such a statement. That said, which is the better standard? Online? I would have thought it was fairly close.

Noticing an expert level online rating and a patzer live rating isn't something that needs a special skillset to do. That is a huge difference. Not saying it is impossible, but it's the first time I have seen such a huge difference.

I would say, take the live rating. My online rating is also a bit higher than in live games, but what do you expect when you have hours to think on 1 move :)

GnrfFrtzl
badger_song írta:

One should resign if one's position on the board is hopeless and the opponent has time to exploit the situation.To force your opponent to play to the end,when one has no reasonable chance for a draw or stalemate is poor sportsmanship,and speaks volumes about the player who refuses to resign.This rule only applies if one has truely lost,not if one has any form of counter-chances.

Look at Anand vs. Ivanchuk.
Anand was ONE MOVE AWAY from being checkmated, and didn't resign (for what reason, I don't even know).
Ivanchuk missed it for some reason, and Anand eventually won on time.
Funny enough, though, no one said anything about poor sportsmanship there.

hanweihehai

i resign everytime immidately ,never waste any time of my opponet for fair and justice ,chess is  just a sorry game ,no big deal at all

Bulliedofthesite

I never resign

I just pulled a stalemate out of certain defeat

It's not over til it's over

dannyhume
“Continue to play on in a completely lost position” seems to me the ultimate example of “hope chess”, especially when no prize money or ranking is at stake, as applies to the vast majority of online chess, but to each their own.
IsraeliGal
dannyhume wrote:
“Continue to play on in a completely lost position” seems to me the ultimate example of “hope chess”, especially when no prize money or ranking is at stake, as applies to the vast majority of online chess, but to each their own.

https://www.chess.com/game/daily/328382364

Your most recent game, you're losing pretty badly on move 14, and this is 3 day chess, yet you continued and it ended up being a draw.

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dannyhume
Soniasthetics wrote:
dannyhume wrote:
“Continue to play on in a completely lost position” seems to me the ultimate example of “hope chess”, especially when no prize money or ranking is at stake, as applies to the vast majority of online chess, but to each their own.

https://www.chess.com/game/daily/328382364

Your most recent game, you're losing pretty badly on move 14, and this is 3 day chess, yet you continued and it ended up being a draw.

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You may not realize this, but I did not know the engine’s assessment while I was playing.

Pan_troglodites

I am a player that never resign.
If I resign defeat is certain.
If  I continue, I  can I win by time or get a stalemate draw.
I am just playing with the possibilities.

Never surrender   is a strategy!