Polite way to suggest to an opponent that its time to accept your draw offer ...

Because this guy certainly didn't know one. Name Removed to protect his identity. I'm sure he's a nice guy, I'll just chalk this one down to cultural differences.

[Name Removed]: hi

[Name Removed]: high

[Name Removed]: brilliant boym lets settle for a draw, our bishop is not of the same color

[Name Removed]: draw, we are wasting our time here

[Name Removed]: evenyou are pawn ahead i can manage a draw because our bishop is of cpposite color thery

[Name Removed]: theory i

brilliantboy : even so, let's play on. we may learn something

[Name Removed]: thats for you to learn i have other tournament joined

[Name Removed]: thats for you to learn i have other tournament joined

[Name Removed]: i am not thinking of winning againt you in this position because you are ahead of one pawn ,i am thinking of how to manage to draw because of the theory of bishop in differnt color.

[Name Removed]: my move is only kh8 and kg7 ,it is a stalemate position

[Name Removed]: ill make no other move except for the two mentioned and its a stalemate

brilliantboy : You're wrong. I have an easy win

[Name Removed]: no im right,i have just my queening pawn and shoulnd have done that to allow me an extra tempo

[Name Removed]: did i satisfy you now for winning

brilliantboy: yes, I'm very satisfied. Would you have accepted the draw if you were in my position?

[Name Removed]: have i satisfied your curiosity now you win how about a draw

[Name Removed]: i played myself to l;ose for you to learn

[Name Removed]: now about a draw i have many opponents waiting not just for your curiosity,if you win i will not play with you again, i hate people winning even its a drawn game . we have to be perfect sometimes and not accept what is offered to us.

[Name Removed]: you can all by itself persistent curiosity that kills the cat. i know you know this theory and you have to forget it because now you win

[Name Removed]: i will not make my move until you win by time anyway its nice to have opponent like you and im beginning to hate you for one.

[Name Removed]: think also like you were me not only you it was proposed in the middlegame i will lose many points necause of this you like earning points so this is for you to make you happy and me sad

[Name Removed]: i have proven you are right now will that me you happyfor commiting error on my part giving you my queening pawn

[Name Removed]: whoever you are i dont like you you aew now/////

[Name Removed]: u are brilliant boy/////

brilliantboy : The position was drawn before the first move...why did we even play?. Grow up, you're acting like a child.

brilliantboy : What you're doing is very rude and bad sportsmanship

[Name Removed]: this will happen to you also someday somehow

[Name Removed]: ill tell you again this will happen to you also someday somehow

[Name Removed]: and you will be just like me

[Name Removed]: as long as you are [playing chess. you will also experience this one

[Name Removed]: and that will teach you the theory iaam saying

[Name Removed]: u jist make your winning move, you will win on time i will not resign, i will never accept this as a defeat my part enjoy your learning

[Name Removed]: mot winning, u too will become like me someday sonehow, and you might be woese than me.

brilliantboy : Whether the position was drawn or not, I had a slight advantage and was perfectly entitled to play on and try to win. Maybe you need to do some learning too and then you'll be able to hold a draw in a position like that.

[Name Removed]: you too might bui also worse than me uunderstand

brilliantboy : You lost, I won. Deal with it!

[Name Removed]: someday sonehow it will start with today and you wont forget me.

brilliantboy : are you putting a curse on me? :/

[Name Removed]: i just didnt have time to think more about it. theres no problem with me remember what iva said it will begin to start with you today

[Name Removed]: you will also meet people like just yourself who doest not want to draw

[Name Removed]: happy now, am i disturbing you

brilliantboy : disturbing? no, you're amusing me

[Name Removed]: im not begging for a draw, what im saying is this too will hapen to you somebay somehow and u will also hate yourself when your eneny is persistent

[Name Removed]: ive always admired irish for their bravery is braveheart from ireland or scotland

[Name Removed]: u have presented yourself an unworthy enemy

[Name Removed]: i have not gained any respect for your refusal

[Name Removed]: or even respect for you, others too will not respect you for your curisity and it starts now remember you have many games and you too will feel what i feel today

brilliantboy : I agree...it will happen often that I will lose a drawn or won position but that's the nature of chess. Braveheart is from Scotland

[Name Removed]: curiosity

[Name Removed]: have u read my topic about the art of losing

[Name Removed]: this one will not make you forget about your winning

[Name Removed]: i was interested in challenging you because of a comment or topic that i read about you

[Name Removed]: now i know who you are

[Name Removed]: it wont be easy for you to deal with as long as there are plenty of people just like u

[Name Removed]: who play for curiosity sake mistake searching sake

brilliantboy : You're an interesting person [Name Removed]. I play for improvement's sake...improvement doesn't come by taking the easy way out and accepting draws.

brilliantboy : I wouldn't have been sad if I had blundered and lost because I still would have learned something

[Name Removed]: i said thats for you to learn, i have learn about it a long time ago

[Name Removed]: i just didnt have time to be serious about you and i hate myself for that because of lots of plenty games on line waiting for my move

brilliantboy : that's not my problem I'm afraid

[Name Removed]: ill just have to forget about you goodbye and you ll be also like one

You played well, lets proceed to a draw.

I see nothing wrong with what you did. I see both sides of the argument, but [name removed] took it to a whole nother level.

lol, what??? Is there an internet connection, at the Sanitarium???

Lol at his arguments. "Even though you are pawn ahead, I still manage draw because of opposite colour bishop theory" this is nonsense,  it depends on the position, not to mention the skill of the two players.

[Name Removed]: this will happen to you also someday somehow

[Name Removed]: ill tell you again this will happen to you also someday somehow

[Name Removed]: and you will be just like me

A few lines later

[Name Removed]: mot winning, u too will become like me someday sonehow, and you might be woese than me.

Check out [Name Removed]'s profile on his profile page.

Put two and two together (with the above quotes).

What do you guys think?

I had a good laugh.

The game, for anyone who's interested. The conversation above began after Black's 35th move:

I notice looking at his game history that all his draws so far are by agreement and rather earlier than necessary.

A GM in the making, for sure!

I'm on another chess site (yeah, I'm a traitor), but I'm trying to suggest, politely, to my opponent that he accept my draw offer--the second one I've put forward:

http://gameknot.com/chess.pl?bd=16323293&rnd=26149

Here's how I see it: Nxh1, Kxh1, Kxh1. Draw by insufficient material.

Well, if it's that close to a draw by insufficient material, it doesn't matter terribly that he doesn't accept it, right?

It's not like you're having to play out 30 moves.

In chess there is KNOWLEDGE and there is SKILL. Just because one has the knowledge, doesn't guarantee that he has the skill. But many has been deluded by his knowledge and thinks that he is stronger than he actually is or his rating.

@yusuf_prasojo: WIN.

@DavidStyles: Yeah, all I have to do is be patient. Still, it's hard to wait when you're keen to start the secound round of a tournament and all that lies between you and that is this one game...:P

I believe that [name removed] is a troll...

 I think you underestimate how stupid some people can be 

Not in this place.

And [name removed] needs some english lessons. Or is it that he just types with a heavy accent?

I'm terrible at endgames too, but 43. ... g5 is the losing move for black, right? Allowing white an outside passed pawn on the side of the board where there was no majority is a big issue.

A lot of players don't understand the difference between "theoretically drawn" and "dead drawn." They assume if it's theoretically drawn, they shouldn't have to play on, no matter how difficult the draw may be to hold in practical terms. A dead drawn position has no more interesting play and holding the draw is trivial.

BOC with a ton of pawns left on the board is at best theoretically drawn, and frequently not even that. There are tons of BOC endings that aren't drawn at all, even with perfect play.

as Artie Johnson used to say on " Laugh-In "   veeery interesting !   lol

 If he doesn't play g5 I'm going to pick off that pawn and have the outside passer anyway. Rybka seems to think the previous move 42...Kd6 is where it all started t go wrong for Black. It recommends 42...f5 43.gxf5 gxf5 44.Ke3 +0.44 and a probable draw.

And for all [Name Removed]'s whining about his errors,  34.Be4 was completely winning for me 

In an effort to be less long winded than I normally am I'm going to just state a few disjointed opinions I have on this subject.

I've been in the losers position before.  I was ticked that the other guy didn't accept a draw.  But I learned from it.  Often the other guy won.  My endgame is weak and I know it.  So I was trying to avoid losing.  

There is nothing wrong with playing on in a drawn game.  brilliantboy (of course) did nothing wrong.  The other guy is a sore loser.  

I have stopped offering draws against higher rated players.  I understand why they refuse (as they should).  Because I might make a mistake.  Its hard to "hold a draw" against a good player.  

I used to offer a lot of draws to avoid screwing up a drawn game.  Now I will wait until the game is definitely drawn and then I offer one time and I never mention it again.  If my opponent refuses to accept a draw then I will not offer a draw again no matter what.  If we are in a game that Kasparov couldn't win against a 600 rated player, I will still not offer a second draw.  I will wait until the opponent offers the draw and then I will accept.  

The sore loser has too many games going at once.  You end up losing games you can win or draw when you over commit to too many at once.  (I've done that).