Promoting to....A PAWN ? Can it Help ?

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Adding - what would be the point of marching to the 8th rank!?!? KING ME!
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In Shogi, (Japanese Chess, most of your pieces can "promote" when they reach the promotion squares (just like in chess). However, there are rules that specifically address this sort of thing and I think it makes sense in Western Chess, too.

 

In Shogi (which is a 9 X 9 - squared board), the opposite 3 ranks are the promotion squares. Because of this, you have the option to promote as early as the 7th rank, but you don't have to. However, once your pawn gets to the 9th rank, it MUST promote, as it would have no legal moves afterward if it didn't. 

 

I think the same logic applies here. A pawn would have no legal moves if you left it a pawn on the promotion rank. Therefore, it MUST promote to a piece that (barring pins, checks and other forcing positions) COULD make legal moves i.e. anything other than a pawn. 

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There is no such thing as to "Promote"  to same rank or level.

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Monie49 wrote:
Adding - what would be the point of marching to the 8th rank!?!? KING ME!

....options. I'm trying to find where leaving it as a pawn would be the best choice, but nohow can I create such a composition or a game example.

Avatar of ZlyphrrPlayz

this is a ridiculous. how can a pawn being promoted to a pawn help you? it is impossible to find a way because the pawn is actually doing nothing at all. i hope this isn't a troll, if then rated 5.5/10

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1.0/10

Avatar of universityofpawns

Actually...good one...promoting to a pawn....I'm still laughing!

Avatar of ALS2005

Maybe for  stalemate

:/

Avatar of The_Ghostess_Lola

....and there you go. If you're well & down ?....then promoting to pawn garnering u a 0.5 point is a good thing, right ?

You could be sooo far down in material that "promoting" to a space-gobbling pawn would behoove.

Pretty pleez try to create such a composition ALS2005....w/ whippy cream on top ?

Avatar of The_Ghostess_Lola

A pawn would have no legal moves if you left it a pawn on the promotion rank.  

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This makes some sense. Thnx KBToys7 !

Avatar of president_max

nobody understands the poor pawn

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/off-topic/the-sad-tale-of-the-pawn

Avatar of lfPatriotGames

Every piece a pawn is promoted to can move. I would assume a pawn left on the 8th rank as a pawn would also be able to move (as someone else suggested to be able to checkmate). Which means bbgum's scenario would not be stalemate.

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Good job Lola, troll em all happy.png

Avatar of Heard-Elephant

If the pawn simply stays a pawn it cannot be called a promotion, the pawn should get some compensation for not becoming another piece. If the pawn is to be promoted yet stay a pawn it should be given the ability to move back across the board and attack the enemy from behind. I think there will also be quite a few cases where that ability could cause checkmates.

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https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/best-pawn-promotion-rule 

See comment 13

Avatar of The_Ghostess_Lola

....and there you have it. I feel you should be able to leave it unpromoted....a pawn.

IT ENRICHES THE GAME !!

TY Boyangzhao !

Avatar of The_Ghostess_Lola

....and TY Bubblegum for #35 !....<3 L Smile

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BronsteinPawn wrote:

Good job Lola, troll em all

I'm not trolling. Now, u can believe that or not. I'm just trying to challenge & strip the game of dumb random rules that don't support & cry out....

"Well, 'cuz that's the way we've always done it !"

....that's so baby booming 1900's !

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This position is -M6 but if white could promote to b8=p then it's a stalemate

CHess was more fun when you were only allowed to promote a pawn to the piece that is behind it at the start, i.e A-pawn=rook B-pawn = knight,,


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