You forgot about the people that read it and just go on with their business.
Ratings is the sole reason we play

i play for fun. i dont know about the rest of you but when i play for fun and see my rating go up too it is pretty gratifying.

I play to get better, I play to learn, I play 'cause I like to play. I play to kill time.
Ratins?
What da fk can I do with that?
Tell me socketman?
Ratings won't change your life, but they will give you a sense of accomplishment or failure while playing. I said earlier that if not for ratings, then how would you feel you are gaining progress as a chess player. People are more inspired to concentrate, make it to their computers to avoid timing out. There are many more reasons than this. Unrated games are for people who are sensitive about losing or gaining points. A 2500 player wouldn't like to play a 1500 player rated, because nothing is credited to them for winning.
But what if that 2500 is over rated and the other guy (1500) is under rated? They may have a game that won't be forgotten in years. See, I see your point though, but ratings will do more harm than good, ESPECIALLY online ratings, look at me I was almost 2100 a few weeks ago, in real OTB game I will never EVER can come close to that. Now what does my 2100 rating do for me here at chess.com? Do I get any appreciation like, hm that guy really knows how to play!....? NOT!
The one who considers online rating any value is an absolut moron!

But what if that 2500 is over rated and the other guy (1500) is under rated? They may have a game that won't be forgotten in years. See, I see your point though, but ratings will do more harm than good, ESPECIALLY online ratings, look at me I was almost 2100 a few weeks ago, in real OTB game I will never EVER can come close to that. Now what does my 2100 rating do for me here at chess.com? Do I get any appreciation like, hm that guy really knows how to play!....? NOT!
The one who considers online rating any value is an absolut moron!
I don't think you get the message I've been sending. People don't pray at night about ratings, but ratings do give people an IDEA where their at. I don't get the whole 1500 playing well above the rating because that explains my point why a 2500 wouldn't want to play a rated game. Ratings aren't perfect, but they are there for us to compete and reflect our games. Just because you are 2100 at online chess and say hundreds of points less OTB doesn't mean ratings are a crock. There are many 1800 OTB players who are 1600-1700 online. Some people just benefit better with increased time relaxation, and the alotment to look over games more carefully, others play better with time restraints.
But by you saying that anyone who things ratings matter is absurd is almost absurd in itself. A part of you plays for ratings or you would just play a computer instead... You can't judge a person's ability without it. A computer with a level 9 is a rating, everything is rated.
But what if that 2500 is over rated and the other guy (1500) is under rated? They may have a game that won't be forgotten in years. See, I see your point though, but ratings will do more harm than good, ESPECIALLY online ratings, look at me I was almost 2100 a few weeks ago, in real OTB game I will never EVER can come close to that. Now what does my 2100 rating do for me here at chess.com? Do I get any appreciation like, hm that guy really knows how to play!....? NOT!
The one who considers online rating any value is an absolut moron!
I don't think you get the message I've been sending. People don't pray at night about ratings, but ratings do give people an IDEA where their at. I don't get the whole 1500 playing well above the rating because that explains my point why a 2500 wouldn't want to play a rated game. Ratings aren't perfect, but they are there for us to compete and reflect our games. Just because you are 2100 at online chess and say hundreds of points less OTB doesn't mean ratings are a crock. There are many 1800 OTB players who are 1600-1700 online. Some people just benefit better with increased time relaxation, and the alotment to look over games more carefully, others play better with time restraints.
But by you saying that anyone who things ratings matter is absurd is almost absurd in itself. A part of you plays for ratings or you would just play a computer instead... You can't judge a person's ability without it. A computer with a level 9 is a rating, everything is rated.
Ye I guess ratings are what it is, nothing more, But it shouldn't motivate players or demotivate players for playing a game ( or not)...The irony of it all is, players who overly worry about this stuff, amount to nothing in chess history, while players who sees the beauty of it all and play because of it become our heroes....

But what if that 2500 is over rated and the other guy (1500) is under rated? They may have a game that won't be forgotten in years. See, I see your point though, but ratings will do more harm than good, ESPECIALLY online ratings, look at me I was almost 2100 a few weeks ago, in real OTB game I will never EVER can come close to that. Now what does my 2100 rating do for me here at chess.com? Do I get any appreciation like, hm that guy really knows how to play!....? NOT!
The one who considers online rating any value is an absolut moron!
I don't think you get the message I've been sending. People don't pray at night about ratings, but ratings do give people an IDEA where their at. I don't get the whole 1500 playing well above the rating because that explains my point why a 2500 wouldn't want to play a rated game. Ratings aren't perfect, but they are there for us to compete and reflect our games. Just because you are 2100 at online chess and say hundreds of points less OTB doesn't mean ratings are a crock. There are many 1800 OTB players who are 1600-1700 online. Some people just benefit better with increased time relaxation, and the alotment to look over games more carefully, others play better with time restraints.
But by you saying that anyone who things ratings matter is absurd is almost absurd in itself. A part of you plays for ratings or you would just play a computer instead... You can't judge a person's ability without it. A computer with a level 9 is a rating, everything is rated.
Ye I guess ratings are what it is, nothing more, But it shouldn't motivate players or demotivate players for playing a game ( or not)...The irony of it all is, players who overly worry about this stuff, amount to nothing in chess history, while players who sees the beauty of it all and play because of it become our heroes....
You were right to an extent, but to say someone who values ratings is a moron isn't looking at the spectrum of of adverse thought. I care about my rating, but I also know I will never be a professional chess player. I have little experience, but honestly it is comfort to me that I rank higher than 87% of chess players, even when I've played with two people in real life. That is motivation there; therefore, the root of playing, again and again, is for RATING. A 1000 will feel acomplished for being a 1300 someday. A 1600 will feel accomplished when their a 1900, etc etc.
Most know that these ratings have value only to those who value them. Relatively few would play over the long term with no ratings however.

What is all this talk about "if you don't play for ratings why don't you just play a computer?".
Are you honestly implying that the only difference between playing a human and playing a computer is a potential rating change? Humans and computers play very different chess.

Most know that these ratings have value only to those who value them. Relatively few would play over the long term with no ratings however.
I don't think that's true. People have been playing chess long before there were ratings.

"You were right to an extent, but to say someone who values ratings is a moron isn't looking at the spectrum of of adverse thought." Oh, the irony.

I think the next big upgrade for the site should be to shut down the forums and just have games. =]
Problem solved!

alright, I'll divulge it, but don't let it leave this thread. pssst...I have this fetish for beating boys at things. The look of a boy getting schooled by a girl in ping pong, tennis, chess...whatever...is priceless. So I need to get a lot better so I can do it more frequently. Blame it on my dad.
A "boy" who is insecure will be upset to lose to a girl. I lost to a girl yesterday at chess, but I also beat her a few days earlier. Her rating was in the mid 1900's and was my best win.
There is no problem losing to a girl at chess.
As far back as I can remember, boys (in general) make a big deal about losing to a girl. At university, if I was beating a string of boys at racquetball or ping pong, boys would gather and hoot at my opponent with obnoxious comments like "damn, he's getting torn up by a girl"...sure, I'd shoot dirty looks at them...but the reality is, my competitive side gets an extra kick out of it...and chess is a game I especially enjoy beating boys at...especially unsuspecting boys who aren't even really "chess players" but who randomly end up offering a game of chess. It happens a lot. :) Sometimes it's as if they can't believe we have brains or interests outside of shopping.
Sounds like you wish you were a man.
I don't get that vibe at all.
I'm not questioning her orientation, but I'm curious to why she gets a kick out of beating "boys", but hates it when people snicker when she beats "boys." It's completely contradictive to me.
It's funny because she has mentioned racquetball, tennis, and ping pong, which were all sports/activities I grew up on as a kid through high school. I really don't think anyone would snicker at me if she beat me at those activities, rather what they would be doing is praising her and would receive more respect. Nothing what she said above impresses me. She sounds like a softball player to me.
I know that this is dead, but I just have to get my 2 cents in.
Afaf's delight in whipping the boys at ping pong is not a gender based thing. It's one of the oldest stories--the underdog. I'd bet, as a baseball player, socket2me understands the thrill of coming out on top as the underdog. I remember a schoolyard fist fight I had with the alpha-male in my class. He was bigger, stronger, faster, and smarter than me, but was still getting the worst of it. The catcalls he was getting from all of his buddies was very gratifying!
Also, socket2me, I have also been called "deep". Always by the most vapid and vacuous of individuals, usually...this is for afaf...women.

I think the next big upgrade for the site should be to shut down the forums and just have games. =]
Problem solved!
if that happend then there would be no more puzzles and no more blogs and no where to your suggestion
But what if that 2500 is over rated and the other guy (1500) is under rated? They may have a game that won't be forgotten in years. See, I see your point though, but ratings will do more harm than good, ESPECIALLY online ratings, look at me I was almost 2100 a few weeks ago, in real OTB game I will never EVER can come close to that. Now what does my 2100 rating do for me here at chess.com? Do I get any appreciation like, hm that guy really knows how to play!....? NOT!
The one who considers online rating any value is an absolut moron!
I don't think you get the message I've been sending. People don't pray at night about ratings, but ratings do give people an IDEA where their at. I don't get the whole 1500 playing well above the rating because that explains my point why a 2500 wouldn't want to play a rated game. Ratings aren't perfect, but they are there for us to compete and reflect our games. Just because you are 2100 at online chess and say hundreds of points less OTB doesn't mean ratings are a crock. There are many 1800 OTB players who are 1600-1700 online. Some people just benefit better with increased time relaxation, and the alotment to look over games more carefully, others play better with time restraints.
But by you saying that anyone who things ratings matter is absurd is almost absurd in itself. A part of you plays for ratings or you would just play a computer instead... You can't judge a person's ability without it. A computer with a level 9 is a rating, everything is rated.
Ye I guess ratings are what it is, nothing more, But it shouldn't motivate players or demotivate players for playing a game ( or not)...The irony of it all is, players who overly worry about this stuff, amount to nothing in chess history, while players who sees the beauty of it all and play because of it become our heroes....
You were right to an extent, but to say someone who values ratings is a moron isn't looking at the spectrum of of adverse thought. I care about my rating, but I also know I will never be a professional chess player. I have little experience, but honestly it is comfort to me that I rank higher than 87% of chess players, even when I've played with two people in real life. That is motivation there; therefore, the root of playing, again and again, is for RATING. A 1000 will feel acomplished for being a 1300 someday. A 1600 will feel accomplished when their a 1900, etc etc.
Fair enough for me.
And you do know that 75 percent of statistics are made up on the spot
67% of all people know this.
I am one of the 33% that will remain ignorant.
Of all those who will read this post 12% will just ignore it 37% will have a giggle and 51% won't be able to stop laughing
And 1/2 of them will make up 50 % of the people that read it. Now thats an indisputable fact!!