Stalemate should = WIN
SOUNDS SO STUPID. Enough Woke Chess nonesense
White has 55% win rate while Black only has 45%, even though stalemate is a rule of chess and it shows in a broad daylight that the game is not balanced. Imagine that at perfect plays, most of the games results in stalemate then suddenly a rule change happens removing stalemate as a draw. Most of the draws from these plays will go to White's favor which worsens the game balance much more. Do you still want to remove this rule?
"I didn't even know this rule existed when I first started playing and it's making it hard for me to continue learning and playing."
Youre using this as an excuse to not learn and grow. If you cannot win a won position, then your opponent deserves the draw. The problem is you. Not your opponent or a rule.
"I didn't even know this rule existed when I first started playing and it's making it hard for me to continue learning and playing."
Youre using this as an excuse to not learn and grow. If you cannot win a won position, then your opponent deserves the draw. The problem is you. Not your opponent or a rule.
But learning is very hard. Learning how to checkmate with a queen would take at least 10 minutes. It is much easier and faster to google and post some nonsense "chess memes".
I also want to add that if you will remove stalemate, most of the time there will be a piece beside a king will remain. Which due to the removal of the stalemate rule, insufficient material rule will also be abolish automatically. Even though it is hard to make a checkmate as long as you have an extra piece beside your king, you just have to flag your opponent that do not have a piece remaining beside their king. It will be considered a win automatically.
"Chess is a war simulator game. "
Nope. Chess was a war simulator game in its origin, but it has completely into something completely different, Just think: In actual war, do the two sides take turns? Of course not.
Stalemate is an excellent rule that requires the superior side to play carefully and accurately right to the end, and allows the inferior side chances for a miraculous escape.
By the way, you might get the point that if stalemate is removed, you can still win with a knight or a bishop as long as you cornered the opponent king. As I said, this rule removal will favor White ruining the game balance even worse.
Stalemate becoming a draw needs to be removed. It's a cheap gimmick that only allows inferior players to deus ex machina what would of otherwise been a loss from a superior player, into another boring draw.... I didn't even know this rule existed when I first started playing and it's making it hard for me to continue learning and playing.
The endgame is always extremely irritating because of this. I know some people are going to say "get good, learn the rules, this is a beginner problem only".
Yeah well. I can choose to TOLERATE this terrible rule, or quit, but it shouldn't be like that. Give players the choice on what ruleset they want to play....
Stalemate should win?
No, forcing stalemate should LOSE
Also, if players could choose rules then the game with no stalemate draw wouldn't be chess so no-one would choose to play it. The results wouldn't count for anything. You're at liberty to play it as much as you wish.
You do realize that the position in the picture is a checkmate? White wins according to the rules. The black King is in check by so many pieces it is hard to count them.
The black King would have to not be in check, for it to be a stalemate.
As said, that is checkmate because the king is being attacked (not only would it be checkmate, it's also a completely illegal position). A stalemate would be something like this:
White just played Qf7, which stalemates the king. The reason it doesn't win is because, even though black can't move anywhere, white is not attacking the king.
There are variants on the Variants server that have a different rule for stalemate. If you don't like the rules of normal chess, just go play one of those variants.
OP, with all due respect, you need to learn more about chess before trying to change it.
This suggestion would impact chess much more than you realize. Basically a bunch of endgames as they are today would be changed, and it would make endgame play more straightforward which is a bad thing.
One pawn up would mean much more than it does today.
You would completely destroy a well balanced game.
And all of that because you didn't know how to avoid stalemate with a winning position on the board.
Stalemate becoming a draw needs to be removed. It's a cheap gimmick that only allows inferior players to deus ex machina what would of otherwise been a loss from a superior player, into another boring draw.... I didn't even know this rule existed when I first started playing and it's making it hard for me to continue learning and playing.
The endgame is always extremely irritating because of this. I know some people are going to say "get good, learn the rules, this is a beginner problem only".
Yeah well. I can choose to TOLERATE this terrible rule, or quit, but it shouldn't be like that. Give players the choice on what ruleset they want to play....
get good. learn the rules. take an extra second before you move. Stalemate should not be a win.