May be he does a bit too well. As if there is absolutely no choice. I wonder if a psychiatrist would categorise that as black and white thinking.
Suicide over Chess? Why?
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Jul 16, 2015
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#43
"Suicide is not chosen; it happens when pain exceeds resources for coping with pain".
So he wasn't even above 2000? If he really killed himself over his chess, that's........a lame excuse. How can one measure one's worth over a board game?
It has to be something else....
Jul 17, 2015
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Babytigrrr skrev:
"Suicide is not chosen; it happens when pain exceeds resources for coping with pain".
or a lack of the overview of the situation.
a kid being bullied may see no other way out.
however the problems may only be temporary - he may become "king" later in the life
problems are often bigger if you choose to set your focus on them. it is better to get away from the problems. problems are selten as bad as they appear if you see them from a distant.
Suicide will never solve anything and will only bring pain to friends and family.
Guys, lets be positive!
It could be that he was preparing to leave his home and go for a beautiful adventure full of fun and surprises. He might be leaving his stuff for others but then somehow, an accident occured.
It could be that he was exposed to some sort of dangerous material that gets him killed.
Also, he could be choking on something. He could be calling for help but it appeared to be suffocating sounds!
why?
Jesusrios361 wrote:
This man From England Ended his life over a game? Why? I could never imagine killing myself over Chess.
It seems that he was perhaps unable to divorce his emotions from events on the chess board
Lastly he was Welsh. Wales is a different country from England the same as Virginia is not Texas. The United Kingdom is made up of four countries, Scotland, England, Northern Ireland and Wales like America is made up of different states. I relate this because it is somewhat annoying to have the entire British Isles referred to as England. Its not England the same as Virginia is not Texas.
All these posts are so painful.
chessmicky wrote:
Oh absolutely chessmicky. I'm going to guess that Chess might have been the breaking point of a life that had gone terribly wrong for this poor man.
It's very tragic, of course. But it does seem as if this man's problems ran a lot deeper that chess.
chessmicky wrote:
Oh absolutely chessmicky. I'm going to guess that Chess might have been the breaking point of a life that had gone terribly wrong for this poor man.
It's very tragic, of course. But it does seem as if this man's problems ran a lot deeper that chess.
Jul 17, 2015
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ipcress12 wrote:
i guess it's a little spooky that two of the best players in the world for their slices of time -- Fischer and Morphy -- were crippled by mental illness.
After those two, though, I can't think of any noteworthy examples. To be sure chess players fall prey to mental problems just as all people can. But the "crazy chess player" stereotype doesn't seem to have much to it.
Akiba Rubinstein
Jul 17, 2015
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#53
Maybe our culture is too much about achievement and not compassion.
Pillsbury and Steinitz also had their problems. The three most gifted players in US history--Morphy, Pillsbury, and Fischer--all had mental problems in their last years; kind of "The Pride and Sorrow" parts one, two, and three. And Steinitz, the first official WCC, died in an insane asylum in the US. Really makes you want to play chess in the US, doesn't it?
Jul 17, 2015
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#55
I think we have been designed to use our mental energies in certain ways. Overuse in one arena , and neglecting others causes problems.
Jul 17, 2015
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dashkee94 wrote:
Pillsbury and Steinitz also had their problems. The three most gifted players in US history--Morphy, Pillsbury, and Fischer--all had mental problems in their last years; kind of "The Pride and Sorrow" parts one, two, and three. And Steinitz, the first official WCC, died in an insane asylum in the US. Really makes you want to play chess in the US, doesn't it?
Pillsbury reportedly had tertiary syphilis, rather than a mental illness.
Jul 17, 2015
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dashkee94 wrote:
Pillsbury and Steinitz also had their problems. The three most gifted players in US history--Morphy, Pillsbury, and Fischer--all had mental problems in their last years; kind of "The Pride and Sorrow" parts one, two, and three. And Steinitz, the first official WCC, died in an insane asylum in the US. Really makes you want to play chess in the US, doesn't it?
Is it chess or living in the US that causes madness? Steinitz seemed OK in Europe.
Some folks just take themselves too seriously.
I almost killed myself once after playing a Polka
A toothache is hardly the amount of suffering when you are suicidal. lol
In terms of pain non-suicidal people can understand, a bad, unending toothache gets the idea across.
I've read that in the old days Polynesians would throw themselves off cliffs on account of toothaches.