Summarizing why Stalemate MUST be a Draw

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endgame347 wrote:

interesting as usual but be prepared for cynic's bro

Yup, waiting for it right now

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Was a stalemate always a draw? 

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EndgameStudier skrev:
willitrhyme wrote:

Was a stalemate always a draw? 

Think it became a draw in the 1400s or something. When they realized how endgame theory would go out the window if you didn't have to worry about stalemate.

that dose not make any sense why would they write endgame theory considering stalemates draws before stalemates was draws?

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if you ask me chess migth be better if its played utill king is captured, both making it possible to blunder a loss if you ignore a check and making stalemates a zugzwang of the king.

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I believe stalemate should remain a draw. If the winning side blunders into a stalemate, that's on him for not paying attention. If the losing side is able to force a stalemate, that's to his credit for snatching a draw from the jaws of defeat. 

Making stalemate a win appeals only to those who were winning and then blew it. It will never appeal to those who were losing and saved it.

 

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EndgameStudier wrote:

 The reason this position came up was because one person who felt stalemate should be a win, made an exception to that rule and argued that this position would NOT BE A WIN under the following premise: "Once checkmate is no longer possible, both players are immediately relieved of the obligation to make legal moves, and the game is over, so stalemate in this case would not be a loss by forfeit, since both player no longer HAVE TO MAKE LEGAL MOVES." 

That person misses the point. Anyways, everything is resolved if you stand firm that stalemate is a win, without exceptions.

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Well said!
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https://en.chessbase.com/post/who-needs-stalemate-let-s-abolish-it-

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https://twitter.com/nigelshortchess/status/1062618209046667264?lang=en

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dax00 wrote:
EndgameStudier wrote:

 The reason this position came up was because one person who felt stalemate should be a win, made an exception to that rule and argued that this position would NOT BE A WIN under the following premise: "Once checkmate is no longer possible, both players are immediately relieved of the obligation to make legal moves, and the game is over, so stalemate in this case would not be a loss by forfeit, since both player no longer HAVE TO MAKE LEGAL MOVES." 

That person misses the point. Anyways, everything is resolved if you stand firm that stalemate is a win, without exceptions.

 

What a douche!

A stalemate is a draw - PERIOD, END OF STORY!  All this f**king s**t about why it should be a win is beyond me.  A bunch of crybaby millenials with ADHD that don't want to have to figure anything out in the endgame and figures that they should automatically win if they got that far with extra material, such as K+P vs K.

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Based on the direction this forum is heading......I think its best we all quit chess and take up checkers instead grin.png