TIRED OF 1.d4 . PLAY ALBIN COUNTER GAMBIT

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THE LINE GOES 

1.d4,1.d5 2.c4,2.e5

OFFERS EXCELLENT CHOICE FOR BLACK TO DRAW AND SOMETIMES WIN

Lorgish

Grunfield is far better IMO with a lot less lines that need tons of calculating to win in any serious game. I'll also play king's indian sometimes.

Jecnez

It is risky. Not suitable for begginers

dddddiiiiiii_gambit

well beginners dont play gambits

Lorgish
Jecnez wrote:

It is risky. Not suitable for begginers

It is not suitable for most games. It is a bad gambit because it restricts your kingside knight from developing and looses two pawns, while advanced they are a pain without knights to handle them like this:

in this position black is at a serious disadvantage at the opening. With all pieces back on the first rank and no center control along with a pawn that will fall after e3.
ThrillerFan

The Albin is garbage.

 

Plus, what do you do against 2.Nf3?

 

I'll stick with the King's Indian and Dutch.  Albin is trash!

congrandolor
Acheron wrote:
Jecnez wrote:

It is risky. Not suitable for begginers

It is not suitable for most games. It is a bad gambit because it restricts your kingside knight from developing and looses two pawns, while advanced they are a pain without knights to handle them like this:

in this position black is at a serious disadvantage at the opening. With all pieces back on the first rank and no center control along with a pawn that will fall after e3.

3...dxc4 and black gets an endgame with pawn majority on the Q side, so its not bad at all

congrandolor
Acheron wrote:
Jecnez wrote:

It is risky. Not suitable for begginers

It is not suitable for most games. It is a bad gambit because it restricts your kingside knight from developing and looses two pawns, while advanced they are a pain without knights to handle them like this:

in this position black is at a serious disadvantage at the opening. With all pieces back on the first rank and no center control along with a pawn that will fall after e3.

3...dxc4 and black gets an endgame with pawn majority on the Q side, so its not bad at all

JamesColeman

Lol. It certainly is if Black plays the ludicrous moves posted by Acheron

SmyslovFan

The Albin has been played by Super GMs such as Morozevich. But if you're going to play a trashy opening, you really do need to prepare it very deeply. White has a couple of known ways to get a nice clean advantage. If you don't have something specific prepared against what's known as White's best answers, you're gonna get blown off the board. 

If you play trash openings, you gotta spend a lot more time doing home prep than if you play main lines that are well established and not so trappy. 

shivank2005
666Buffchix wrote:

"Beginners should only focus on endgames and stick to OPEN e4 Roy Lopez vs Sicilian Memorydragon games with lots of sharp tactics and moves memorized 50-deep. That's how you learn chess. What do you mean it sounds like hazing?"

"Beginners should only focus on endgames and stick to OPEN e4 Roy Lopez vs Sicilian

 

um... i recommend to play d4 more then e4... d4 looks a little safe

SmyslovFan
shivank2005 wrote:
666Buffchix wrote:

"Beginners should only focus on endgames and stick to OPEN e4 Roy Lopez vs Sicilian Memorydragon games with lots of sharp tactics and moves memorized 50-deep. That's how you learn chess. What do you mean it sounds like hazing?"

"Beginners should only focus on endgames and stick to OPEN e4 Roy Lopez vs Sicilian

 

um... i recommend to play d4 more then e4... d4 looks a little safe

Don't play chess for safety. If you fear what happens on a chess board, tiddlywinks may be the game for you.

1.d4 is an excellent first move for novices, as is 1.e4. Both moves attack the center and make it easy to develop the pieces democratically. White doesn't have to play the best move, 2.c4 to get an interesting and playable position. The Veresov with 1.d4 d5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Bg5 is a perfectly playable opening for novices. If Black plays 3...e6, White can transpose immediately into the Classical French with 4.e4! I'm sure that even the stodgiest 1.e4 fan will agree that such a transposition is acceptable for novices. 

Don't play chess to be safe. But do choose lines that maximize your chances to win. The Albin doesn't fit that description. 

ThrillerFan
SmyslovFan wrote:
shivank2005 wrote:
666Buffchix wrote:

"Beginners should only focus on endgames and stick to OPEN e4 Roy Lopez vs Sicilian Memorydragon games with lots of sharp tactics and moves memorized 50-deep. That's how you learn chess. What do you mean it sounds like hazing?"

"Beginners should only focus on endgames and stick to OPEN e4 Roy Lopez vs Sicilian

 

um... i recommend to play d4 more then e4... d4 looks a little safe

Don't play chess for safety. If you fear what happens on a chess board, tiddlywinks may be the game for you.

1.d4 is an excellent first move for novices, as is 1.e4. Both moves attack the center and make it easy to develop the pieces democratically. White doesn't have to play the best move, 2.c4 to get an interesting and playable position. The Veresov with 1.d4 d5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Bg5 is a perfectly playable opening for novices. If Black plays 3...e6, White can transpose immediately into the Classical French with 4.e4! I'm sure that even the stodgiest 1.e4 fan will agree that such a transposition is acceptable for novices. 

Don't play chess to be safe. But do choose lines that maximize your chances to win. The Albin doesn't fit that description. 

 

I challenge you to a rated game of Tiddlywinks!  LOL!

Lorgish
JamesColeman wrote:

Lol. It certainly is if Black plays the ludicrous moves posted by Acheron

I'm simply putting an example. Please tell me what black should play when following the rules of the opening. (I.e Knight develop before bishops)

JamesColeman

Well I mean in the sequence you posted if Black simply played 4...d4 and then recaptured his pawn on e5 then he's probably even slightly better - so I was just pointing out that's not exactly a refutation. But 3...Nc6 and 4.Nc3 are not serious moves, either. 

 

Lorgish

e3 pretty much wrecks that though. probably end in a trade of queens and a similar position.

SmyslovFan

@Thrillerfan, do you know of an online tiddlywinks site?

ThrillerFan
SmyslovFan wrote:

@Thrillerfan, do you know of an online tiddlywinks site?

 

No, I can't say I do!  LOL!

 

I only remember the game from playing it in my 1st grade class in 1981/1982.

Lorgish

I have a tiddlywinks set actually. Kind of hard in my opinion.

JamesColeman
Acheron wrote:

e3 pretty much wrecks that though. probably end in a trade of queens and a similar position.

 

What does it wreck? And like I say, Black wouldn’t play ...Nc6 anyway.