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Avatar of GM-Hongwaree

Hello chess.com team. I have a big question for ya guys. Will I have copyright issues if I use a diagram made here in a self publish book, that will be for sale?

Avatar of justbefair

The moves themselves aren’t under copyright.

Avatar of GM-Hongwaree
justbefair wrote:

The moves themselves aren’t under copyright.

I'm obviously not talking about the moves, lad. It's the VISUAL coyright I'm concerned about. Do you understand, now?

Avatar of Martin_Stahl

You would probably be best off asking Support directly. Most piece sets are under copyright so are likely something you can't use for commercial use

Avatar of funny-invalid-ramilchik

Ку, надо написать на почту minochkinnikovai2009@

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GM-Hongwaree wrote:
justbefair wrote:

The moves themselves aren’t under copyright.

I'm obviously not talking about the moves, lad. It's the VISUAL coyright I'm concerned about. Do you understand, now?


Yes. You should probably consult with a lawyer.

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justbefair wrote:
GM-Hongwaree wrote:
justbefair wrote:

The moves themselves aren’t under copyright.

I'm obviously not talking about the moves, lad. It's the VISUAL coyright I'm concerned about. Do you understand, now?

Yes. You should probably consult with a lawyer.

Are you freaking kidding me? You are a moderator. You should be very aware of chess.com legal terms and if not, you have a more direct contact with chess.com main team and ask them. Cause I've read the Terms and there is nothing specific about this.

Avatar of Pudding

Try asking @Wind

Avatar of mikewier

I have the same question. It is possible to create a chessboard in Word and then use chesspiece icons that are in the public domain. But it is much easier to copy a diagram from a game at chess.com.

Martin. Could you direct us to the specific person who could answer this?

Avatar of GM-Hongwaree
mikewier wrote:

I have the same question. It is possible to create a chessboard in Word and then use chesspiece icons that are in the public domain. But it is much easier to copy a diagram from a game at chess.com.

Martin. Could you direct us to the specific person who could answer this?

That's exactly what I'm talking about, me mate.

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Well. First off, there are different copyright laws in every country. Anyone attempting to give an answer would have to be familiar with the laws in many countries.

So even if there were someone in Chess.com who was the corporate attorney, he or she would probably hedge their answer in many ways.

I looked at the user agreement:

11. Infringement Policy and Reporting Procedure

Chess.com respects the intellectual property rights of others and expects users of the Service to do the same. We comply with the federal Digital Millennium Copyright Act (“DMCA“), the text of which may be found on the U.S. Copyright Office Website at http://www.copyright.gov/legislation/dmca.pdf. We will respond to notices of alleged copyright infringement that comply with the DMCA and other applicable law and are properly provided to us; provided that if there is Content associated with an NFT that is infringing, we will use commercially reasonable efforts to prevent such NFT from displaying the infringing content when connected to our Services.

If you believe that any Content has been copied or used in a way that constitutes copyright infringement, please provide us with the following information:

  • a physical or electronic signature of the copyright owner or a person authorized to act on their behalf;

  • identification of the copyrighted work claimed to have been infringed;

  • identification of the material that is claimed to be infringing or to be the subject of infringing activity, and information reasonably sufficient to permit us to locate the material (such as a url);

  • your contact information, including your address, telephone number, and an email address;

  • a written statement by you that you have a good faith belief that use of the material in the manner complained of is not authorized by the copyright owner, its agent, or the law; and

  • a statement that the information in the notification is accurate, and, under penalty of perjury, that you are authorized to act on behalf of the copyright owner.

If you believe that your removed Content is not actually infringing, or that you have the necessary rights to post your Content, please send us a counter-notice containing the following information:

  • a physical or electronic signature of the copyright owner or a person authorized to act on their behalf;

  • your physical or electronic signature (with your full legal name);

  • identification of the Content that has been removed or to which access has been disabled and the location at which the content appeared before it was removed or disabled;

  • a statement that you have a good faith belief, under penalty of perjury, that the Content was removed or disabled as a result of mistake or a misidentification of the Content; and

  • your name, address, telephone number, and email address, and a statement that you will accept service of process from the person who provided the original notification of the alleged infringement.

If we receive a counter-notice, we may send a copy of the counter-notice to the person alleging copyright infringement and inform that person that we may replace the removed Content. Unless the original person alleging copyright infringement files an action seeking a court order against the Content provider, member, or user, the removed Content may be replaced, in ten to fourteen business days or more after receipt of the counter-notice, at Chess.com's sole discretion.

Please understand that filing a counter-notification may lead to legal proceedings between you and the complaining party to determine ownership. Be aware that there may be adverse legal consequences in your country if you make a false or bad faith allegation by using this process.

We reserve the right to remove Content alleged to be infringing without prior notice and at our sole discretion. In appropriate circumstances, we also may terminate a user's account if the user is determined to be a repeat infringer. Our designated copyright agent for notice of alleged copyright infringement appearing on the Service is:

Chess.com LLC, Legal
877 E 1200 S #970397
Orem, UT 84097
legal@chess.com

/

I thought that the history of various attempt to copyright chess moves was entertaining and instructive.

https://copyrightlately.com/chess-and-copyright

https://www.chesshistory.com/winter/extra/copyright.html

Avatar of NotThePainter

Just use lichess

https://lichess.org/terms-of-service

You are welcome to use and reproduce our website for your personal and commercial use, so long as you comply with the relevant licenses applicable to the website and their component parts (such as fonts, designs, piece sets). Please refer to the "Licenses" section of these Terms for further information.

You'll want to dig through the Licenses section.

Avatar of mikewier

Thanks for the info.

Avatar of Ishaanharsha
justbefair wrote:

Well. First off, there are different copyright laws in every country. Anyone attempting to give an answer would have to be familiar with the laws in many countries.

So even if there were someone in Chess.com who was the corporate attorney, he or she would probably hedge their answer in many ways.

I looked at the user agreement:

11. Infringement Policy and Reporting Procedure

Chess.com respects the intellectual property rights of others and expects users of the Service to do the same. We comply with the federal Digital Millennium Copyright Act (“DMCA“), the text of which may be found on the U.S. Copyright Office Website at http://www.copyright.gov/legislation/dmca.pdf. We will respond to notices of alleged copyright infringement that comply with the DMCA and other applicable law and are properly provided to us; provided that if there is Content associated with an NFT that is infringing, we will use commercially reasonable efforts to prevent such NFT from displaying the infringing content when connected to our Services.

If you believe that any Content has been copied or used in a way that constitutes copyright infringement, please provide us with the following information:

  • a physical or electronic signature of the copyright owner or a person authorized to act on their behalf;

  • identification of the copyrighted work claimed to have been infringed;

  • identification of the material that is claimed to be infringing or to be the subject of infringing activity, and information reasonably sufficient to permit us to locate the material (such as a url);

  • your contact information, including your address, telephone number, and an email address;

  • a written statement by you that you have a good faith belief that use of the material in the manner complained of is not authorized by the copyright owner, its agent, or the law; and

  • a statement that the information in the notification is accurate, and, under penalty of perjury, that you are authorized to act on behalf of the copyright owner.

If you believe that your removed Content is not actually infringing, or that you have the necessary rights to post your Content, please send us a counter-notice containing the following information:

  • a physical or electronic signature of the copyright owner or a person authorized to act on their behalf;

  • your physical or electronic signature (with your full legal name);

  • identification of the Content that has been removed or to which access has been disabled and the location at which the content appeared before it was removed or disabled;

  • a statement that you have a good faith belief, under penalty of perjury, that the Content was removed or disabled as a result of mistake or a misidentification of the Content; and

  • your name, address, telephone number, and email address, and a statement that you will accept service of process from the person who provided the original notification of the alleged infringement.

If we receive a counter-notice, we may send a copy of the counter-notice to the person alleging copyright infringement and inform that person that we may replace the removed Content. Unless the original person alleging copyright infringement files an action seeking a court order against the Content provider, member, or user, the removed Content may be replaced, in ten to fourteen business days or more after receipt of the counter-notice, at Chess.com's sole discretion.

Please understand that filing a counter-notification may lead to legal proceedings between you and the complaining party to determine ownership. Be aware that there may be adverse legal consequences in your country if you make a false or bad faith allegation by using this process.

We reserve the right to remove Content alleged to be infringing without prior notice and at our sole discretion. In appropriate circumstances, we also may terminate a user's account if the user is determined to be a repeat infringer. Our designated copyright agent for notice of alleged copyright infringement appearing on the Service is:

Chess.com LLC, Legal
877 E 1200 S #970397
Orem, UT 84097
legal@chess.com

/

I thought that the history of various attempt to copyright chess moves was entertaining and instructive.

https://copyrightlately.com/chess-and-copyright

https://www.chesshistory.com/winter/extra/copyright.html

Bro’s dedicated.

Avatar of chesssblackbelt
justbefair wrote:

Well. First off, there are different copyright laws in every country. Anyone attempting to give an answer would have to be familiar with the laws in many countries.

So even if there were someone in Chess.com who was the corporate attorney, he or she would probably hedge their answer in many ways.

Wow you should be kicked as mod for not knowing Palestinian copyright laws (this is a joke don't ban me)

Avatar of GM-Hongwaree
chesssblackbelt wrote:
justbefair wrote:

Well. First off, there are different copyright laws in every country. Anyone attempting to give an answer would have to be familiar with the laws in many countries.

So even if there were someone in Chess.com who was the corporate attorney, he or she would probably hedge their answer in many ways.

Wow you should be kicked as mod for not knowing Palestinian copyright laws (this is a joke don't ban me)

Do you have something against Palestinian people?

Avatar of Ishaanharsha

I think he said Palestine because your the one who made, it and your flag is Palestine. I do not think he was trying to be hostile.

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GM-Hongwaree wrote:

Are you freaking kidding me? You are a moderator. You should be very aware of chess.com legal terms ...

Mods should be legally trained? These are volunteers . Wonder what you might expect from staff.

Avatar of sawdof
GM-Hongwaree wrote:
chesssblackbelt wrote:

Wow you should be kicked as mod for not knowing Palestinian copyright laws (this is a joke don't ban me)

Do you have something against Palestinian people?

Maybe just their copyright laws

Avatar of sawdof
Ishaanharsha wrote:
justbefair wrote:

Well. First off, there are different copyright laws in every country. ...

Bro’s dedicated.

@justbefair often worries too much about justice and fairness and sometimes forgets just to be.