VOTE CHESS GAME ANALYSIS

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bgianis
Xhu wrote: If it was a draw, he should have continued. Plain and simple. Instead, he chose to resign. That is a loss. There are no two ways about it.

Of course.Well said.Plain and simple.


OckhamsRazor

For such an intelligent guy, I'd think you'd be able to at least navigate to dictionary.com to see that resignation != draw.  You do know what != means, yes?  Hope so.

 

You might be unmateable dude, but resigning was cowardly.  I was actually wanting to see you prove it, and thought you might be able to, but you chose to talk your way out of it instead of putting action behind your words.  Too bad for you.  No action = no proof.  Sorry pal, you lost this one.  Resign = loss, not draw.  Go look it up, genius.


OckhamsRazor
erik wrote:

For those interested, here are two games of Rybka vs. Rybka from this position:

 

        

 Good grief, Erik...that was outstanding :)


Webgogs

I can't help myself:

 

Cheater-1 I schooled you and your programs when you said the best in the world could not do it! So I guess I'm 2900+

 

Now, I won and I demand you reveal your true identity to me.

 

What do you have to say for yourself regarding my playing ability now.

 

SCHOOLED By Chess 101. Greed.

 

Now I'm confident against any programs. I didn't have the advantage of top notch programs and hardware. So this was a test for me. This may not come as a shock to you because your computer would have revealed that all my ideas were human thinking. And today, the humans triumphed. Remember when you said I was a 1700 player using Chessmaster? How does it feel now?


Webgogs
Everyone: I worked out mate in all variations to be before move 76. This is no draw.
mrwrangler
I could have respected the offer of a draw, but in chess when the flag falls on the clock I don't think they call that a draw. What really sucks is when a player just walks away from a game with the clock ticking at a tourney. That is what you did cheater, we didn't expect anything less from you.
AquaMan

cheater_1, you should go straight.  This cheating thing isn't really working for you ;).


AquaMan

Hadjarai, thanks for posting.  I went over and read cheater_1's post in the public comments tab of the game.  It sounded pretty conciliatory.  Of course he was pushed to face reality, but still. 

chess.com team and webgogs, good game and congratulations!  Cheater_1, good game. 


mrsoccerchessman

well that was fun...

 

cheater, thanks for playing... everyone else, thanks for putting up with this crap 


normajeanyates
Objectively speaking, the game - considered as NN v NN - is rather instructive.
x-5058622868
Did Cheater_1 protect the claim of being unmateable by resigning?
Evil_Homer
Artemis340 wrote: nobody cares about the game!

Quite clearly some people did, otherwise there wouldn't have been so many players and Cheater_1 wouldn't have created dummy accounts to spy on the chess.com team page.

 


erik
Sunshiny wrote: Did Cheater_1 protect the claim of being unmateable by resigning?

 absolutely not. resignation is a complete acceptance of inevitable checkmate.


LydiaBlonde

Unfortunatelly, cheater_1 made mistakes in the endgame.  We could see there aren't real power behind his big words. So, it isn't interesting to organize next special events with him. However, an endgame of a rook against five pawns is interesting!

 In the diagram up: people said  2. f5 is stronger then 2. Nd6. I can add, what I analysed when the game was still playing (waiting to 38th move of white): white need to play 5. Bc7+ and not 5. Kd6. Afther that, IMHO, all black pawns will be blocked and eaten.


AquaMan

 cheater_1 wrote:

Character is determined by ACTIONS, not words. 

 


Typing words or speaking words is the act of communicating thoughts.  It is most definitely an action, and does most definitely indicate one's character. 

 

I think so much so, that if I were to say something about you, it would tell people more about me than it would about you.  People form their view of me, and rightly so, based on what I say.  People form their view of you, based on what you say. 

(The idea that actions are stronger than words only comes into play when the actions run counter to the words.  Then one has to decide which is more indicative of the person's true character.)


BigHogDogg

I had rybka 2.3.2a estimate it as exactly...  +0.99 


Marshal_Dillon
Obviously his play was far from flawless. Erik demonstrated just two of the many ways white could have forced a win. If cheaters computers were as good a he said then everything should have been forced in his favor and there should have been no way white could have ever found a win.
alantringuyen
what does it mean to be the best chess player when all you can get out of a game is a draw? I guess it does sound kinda pathetic after all, otherwise he could have beaten us without much trouble.
Evil_Homer
alantringuyen wrote: what does it mean to be the best chess player when all you can get out of a game is a draw? I guess it does sound kinda pathetic after all, otherwise he could have beaten us without much trouble.

I'm not sure the position was to be the best chess player, just an unmateable one, given his use of computers etc.

All of the "best players" have been beaten, tale Kasparov and Deep Blue for instance.

From our perspective, we had webgogs, who is an individual unique in his dedication to this endeavour + a bloody good chess player to boot.

Without him, would the best chess player tag have stuck, probably. So let's not carried away as infallibility is for God, whoever he may be, not us.


phantomfears
As far as I am aware you can claim a draw through insufficient material, threefold repetition, stalemate. Other than that I think you would have to offer a draw and wait and see if we agree to it or not. In this case all you have done is resign by timing out. A proper wimp out just your style