what is sandbagging?
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I came across the term while reading , in ‘tournament rules’. I know it is a form of cheating but not much else
Aug 23, 2020
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redghost101 wrote:
I came across the term while reading , in ‘tournament rules’. I know it is a form of cheating but not much else
https://support.chess.com/article/208-what-is-a-sandbagger
Thank you
Aug 23, 2020
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I understand "sandbagging" to be when someone seeks out lower-rated/weaker opponents simply in order to increase their own win total/rating --- it's not necessarily cheating but more a question of sportsmanship.
Aug 23, 2020
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EBowie wrote:
I understand "sandbagging" to be when someone seeks out lower-rated/weaker opponents simply in order to increase their own win total/rating --- it's not necessarily cheating but more a question of sportsmanship.
Sandbagging is purposely decreasing rating. Not sure there is a term for that.
Aug 23, 2020
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Martin_Stahl wrote:
EBowie wrote:
I understand "sandbagging" to be when someone seeks out lower-rated/weaker opponents simply in order to increase their own win total/rating --- it's not necessarily cheating but more a question of sportsmanship.
Sandbagging is purposely decreasing rating. Not sure there is a term for that.
Ok gotcha thanks --- I was mistaken
Aug 23, 2020
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#7
it’s kinda weird, because when you are flying a balloon and start dumping the sandbags you actually go up.
so you have to film it and run the recording backwards to get the idea.
Aug 23, 2020
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Also see https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sandbag
Definition d: to conceal or misrepresent one's true position, potential, or intent especially in order to gain an advantage over
Sep 18, 2020
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@JoeSmithUSA actually, that’s not sandbagging. In general, that’s called smurfing—creating a secondary account to beat up on lower ranked players.
Sandbagging as far as the site is concerned, is when you intentionally suppress your rating in order to enter a tournament in a lower category. So say there are prizes for under 1000, and 1000 and over. You are ranked 1100 but go on a losing streak to enter the under 1000 category.
Sandbagging as far as the site is concerned, is when you intentionally suppress your rating in order to enter a tournament in a lower category. So say there are prizes for under 1000, and 1000 and over. You are ranked 1100 but go on a losing streak to enter the under 1000 category.
Sep 18, 2020
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Sandbagging is when a higher rated player drops their rating on purpose to play lower rated, and thus easier opponents, and usually beat them since they are secretly stronger.
Sep 18, 2020
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@gunther the term sandbagging comes from poker. It’s when you pass the first round of bids in order to intentionally make a large raise in the second round. So in the first round the player is hiding (and pretending to be weak), as a soldier behind a sandbag wall, the he comes out shooting in the second round.
Smurfing comes from Warcraft 2 where two famous players who nobody wanted to play, created second accounts as PapaSmurf and Smurfette.
Smurfing comes from Warcraft 2 where two famous players who nobody wanted to play, created second accounts as PapaSmurf and Smurfette.
yeah I didnt know until recently too
Mr_India371 wrote:
Can this be reported?
why'd you want this reported?
Sep 18, 2020
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IAMDAGOAT123456789 wrote:
Mr_India371 wrote:
Can this be reported?
why'd you want this reported?
Just asking if this is considered cheating or only bad sportsmanship
oh I thought u meant the topic
yeah its something to be reported
Sep 18, 2020
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I think sandbagging is most certainly cheating. If you're not following the rules and playing the game like its intended to be played, it's cheating...bottom line. Stop and consider this: If you have a player who is displaying an ELO of a whopping 250, but was secretly a player of 2500, clearly and easily in the top 1 to 2 percent percentile, and intentionally dropped his rating so low, WHY!?? So they can claim a big number winning streak on their stats page. How is this NOT cheating? That, or just the satisfaction of knowing none of their opponents are going to stand a chance against them for awhile. I actually have less tolerance for a sandbagger then a cheater. Cheaters cheat because they're desperate to win. Sandbaggers win, but want something more then the win, they want bragging rights, or they do it for other inappropriate, personal reasons. No matter how you look at it, sandbagging is cheating. It's also bad sportsmanship, because you're gaining unfair advantages. Play the game fairly! There's no rule that says you can't sandbag, but there's nothing that says you can, either, and you know deep down inside it's wrong. So why do it?
yeah I agree
