I recently learned how to mate with knight and bishop and Im 2300 lol. But seriously if youre opening repertoire is decent study something like Dvoretsky and see how far u can get.
What is there left to learn after 2100?
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I-AM-YOUR-GRANDPA wrote:
I recently learned how to mate with knight and bishop and Im 2300 lol. But seriously if youre opening repertoire is decent study something like Dvoretsky and see how far u can get.
School of Future Champions 2? That one is dedicated to opening preperation.
Uhohspaghettio1 wrote:
With the help of a good trainer/partner, repair all holes and anything he/she found questionable in your play that could be improved.
After that, there's a lot of evidence that chess becomes an opening theory slogfest to the horizons of infinity. You already know how to play, as Watson has noted there comes a point where principles just give way to concrete analysis.
And this is where i lose all interest in chess. I just want to play, i dont want to have to spend hours studying openings, looking for some GM that found a novelty on move 14 of some opening. Games played out like chess engines for the first 15-20+ moves. For me thats not chess, its boredom.
Aug 26, 2015
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xjian77 wrote:
"Grandmaster of Chess: the Complete Games of Paul Keres" is one of the best books I have ever read. My understanding of intiative improved a lot with this book.
"Championship Chess: USSR 1941" by Botvinnik is a forgotten gem. If you want to improve your positional understanding, Botvinnik is an excellent teacher.
"Perfect Your Chess" by Volokitin is a tactics book for 2000+ players.
I read Perfect Your Chess but I couldn't seem to find Championship Chess anywhere. Can you post a link?
Aug 26, 2015
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#66
One of the most important things to learn after 2100 is how to play positions you've never seen correctly. Most 2100s don't actually know how to play most of the positions they play to the fullest extent.
I'm 2050 FIDE and I think the Grandmaster Preparation series by Quality Chess are brilliant, especially the one on positional play. I'm a predominantly aggressive player, and I have noticed an improvement in my general play after working through some of this book. Also learning some of the hundreds of theoretical endings is bound to help, especially rook ending as they turn up extremely often. I would also say that Dvoretsky's classic books are meant to be very good (I haven't yet read them, but I will soon).
afkigu wrote:
One of the most important things to learn after 2100 is how to play positions you've never seen correctly. Most 2100s don't actually know how to play most of the positions they play to the fullest extent.
I completely agree. If you play for example only the KID with black, you may be a master of positions with blcoked centres and opposite wing attacks, but play like an 1800 in open positions, e.g. Grunfeld. To become a master you need to have a good general understanding of all types of positions, rather than limiting your repertoire to your comfort zone.
Aug 26, 2015
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Pryomes are plans associated with a given structure of a position. There are also tactical pryomes, which are plans associated with piece placement and so are more like counterblows to a specific threat. I've been working on a few "tactical pryomes" in the open variation of the ruy lopez, I'll share them with you.
Seismic Shift
Wicker Watch
Now you try.
White has just played 1. Bd3
Aug 26, 2015
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ozzie_c_cobblepot wrote:
Dvoretsky
The best answers have already been given, including the suggestion to ask your coach.
But Ozzie's answer is probably the most pithy. I love it!
Never read Dvoretsky but is probably helpfull.
ThrillerFan wrote:
GreedyPawnEater wrote:
as soon as you reach 2100 and keep studying chess you are just wasting your time. there is nothing to learn really except memorizing opening lines up to move 30 like in the sicilian. what strikes me is that some people enjoy it.
WRONG!
You need to get away from the beginner writers (Silman, Alburt, Seiriwan) and read the more advanced stuff.
Many of the books by Quality Chess like:
The Grandmaster Preparation Series Advanced Chess Tactics Chess Lessons Mating the Castled KingAnd many of the middlegame books by New In Chess like:
Liquidation on the ChessboardAlong with DEEPLY annotated games of MODERN GMs. Ones like Garry Kasparov on Garry Kasparov.
Also, subscribing to things like Informant or the Chess Evolution Weekly Newsletter (CEWN).
Also, Opening books beyond the Starting Out or Move by Move series.
Also, when it comes to studying openings, look for books that are "OBJECTIVE", like the Chess Developments Series (i.e. Chess Developments: Sicilian Najdorf 6.Bg5). This way, you are looking at various lines from an objective standpoint and not being driven down a narrow path from one side only. Repertoire books say "This is what we are going to play, and I'll cover all of White's alternatives".
Instead, a book like the one mentioned above, if you study it, Black makes up his own mind whether to play 6...Nbd7, the Polugaevsky, the Classical, the Poisoned Pawn, the Delayed Poisoned Pawn, etc, rather than having someone else make that decision for you. This way, you play what you are comfortable with, not whatever one GM says to play.
The single best comment I've read on the forums in months. Thank you.
afkigu wrote:
Pryomes are plans associated with a given structure of a position. There are also tactical pryomes, which are plans associated with piece placement and so are more like counterblows to a specific threat. I've been working on a few "tactical pryomes" in the open variation of the ruy lopez, I'll share them with you.
Seismic Shift
In your Seismic Shift position you say the white knight has no good places to go.
What exactly do you do after Ng5 in your Seismic Shift diagram?
NG5 Nxe5 0:1
I-AM-YOUR-GRANDPA wrote:
NG5 Nxe5 0:1
You seem having a twisted view on game results.
After 12...Nxe5 (likely best) white has a rather serious initiative with many moves: 13.Nxe4, 13.Re1 and 13.Bf4 all look quite promising for white.
I was just kidding lol.
Aug 26, 2015
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X_PLAYER_J_X wrote:
afkigu wrote:
Pryomes are plans associated with a given structure of a position. There are also tactical pryomes, which are plans associated with piece placement and so are more like counterblows to a specific threat. I've been working on a few "tactical pryomes" in the open variation of the ruy lopez, I'll share them with you.
Seismic Shift
In your Seismic Shift position you say the white knight has no good places to go.
What exactly do you do after Ng5 in your Seismic Shift diagram?
Great eye. I think Ng5 is likely the best move. After Nxe5 you have to play be2 and get castled. I'm not sure white's initiative is that serious all things considered though. Pryomes only secure white a slight advantage and black equality. Let us look again and see if we cannot find something after pfren's suggested moves.
The verdict stands. Ng5 Nxe4 0:1
Aug 26, 2015
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#79
Do bear in mind that these lines have hardly been analyzed thoroughly. That said, it appears that white's initiative is hardly strong in his selected lines. A pawn thrust here, a bishop move here, and everything white is threatening can hardly be strong.
I am so sorry I gave you false hope.
White is winning in all variations in the continuation after 12.Ng5.
White is even winning before those variations with an even stronger continuation.
I knew something in that position was wrong. I just did not remember what it was. I checked the position with my engine to try and remeber. I found the problem. The problem for black is with the move 9...Bg4
They do not play that move.
They play 9...Nc5 than white follows up with 10.c3
Black than can play 10...Bg4 at that point.
The above position is on the line of equal and small advantage to white. It is like 0.20-0.30 to an engine.
Which in practical terms it means you have reasonable chances with black.
However, after 9...Bg4 black is getting crushed.
Here is the continuation if you are wondering.
In the above position white does not exchange queens. He plays 11.Bd5 white has an advantage of about +2.
It is completely crushing.
If you take the knight on f3 white takes the knight on c6 with check than your king has to move than they can take rook or play another move. It is really bad for black in that continuation.
If you are curious to know what happens in the line we was looking at. White is doing great their as well 12.Ng5 is the only move which gives white an advantage. It is a critical move!
However, if white finds it they will win in those variations as well.
Yeah after 12...Nxe5
Pfren is right here. White has a few moves all which are reasonably well.
After 12...Nxe5 (likely best) white has a rather serious initiative with many moves: 13.Nxe4, 13.Re1 and 13.Bf4 all look quite promising for white.
The problem is black is having trouble castling. Black is also going to get down a pawn in several lines.
I guess we can give an example of 13.Bf4
Instead of playing c3 since we know the bishop is trapped we take the middle pawn. Which means we are up 1 pawn and the dark bishop on e5 making it tough for black to castle. If black moves there bishop on f8 than the g7 pawn is weak and white might try and take it. Even if white doesn't take it they still have very strong pieces in the center of the board making it hard for black. Whites king is very safe.
I think if you plan to play this line you might consider my first diagram with 9...Nc5
I've read over a 100 also, so it would take me about an hour to enter all those books