"But the overwhelming majority of people who do these things are men. So it is a male problem."
Yes, it's largely a male problem. I judge things on a case by case basis, but yes, speaking generally, it's a male problem. Again, not in disagreement.
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And because you say it, it must be right? I just have a different point of view. However careless off me it might be to have it.
So what of post 295? If you were curious about where I give you the careless label. I actually took care with the label I gave you, because instead of making something up, I took something you said about me, and found something that pretty much totally contradicted that, that you must not have read or understood.
But yeah, sure, I'm not saying you can't make careless posts. But I can have an opinion on those posts, obviously.
Mar 24, 2016
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#305
It's funny, but (in the main) I find that the people on here with the most opinions are usually the ones whose opinions matter the least.
It's not really about an opinion mattering. I think people should be passionate about what they believe in. That's all I'm doing here and I'm glad that all of you here seem to do that too. That's how it should be. It often leads to clashes, but better that than us all trying to pretend we all believe in the same thing just to avoid an argument. I think the internet is a good place to talk about this stuff because we at least know it won't escalate into a fist fight. :)
Mar 24, 2016
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#307
Elubas wrote:
Well, it depends on how broad your view of sexism is. Some might even say yelling at a woman is sexism, regardless of the reason for the yelling. But I think that confuses the fact that a woman just so happens to be yelled at, with, she is being yelled at because of her gender. Sexism to me is a way of thinking that people can have. Some action performed might have the external consequence of a woman getting hurt, but whether it's sexist or not depends on the internal thoughts that lead to the result, not just the result itself.
Because, after all, if we only considered the result, then we would say a hurricane was sexist if it killed a woman. After all, it impacted a woman. But there's more to sexism than just whether or not a woman got hurt in a certain situation.
So, y'know how it is trysts, I will continue to annoy you by nudging you to think about things critically :) I'm not saying I know whether or not you're wrong, I just always hope we're looking at this from every angle. Bigpoison might think that means I don't want to make a conclusion; no, I'm fine with conclusions, I just want a lot of thought and consideration before making one.
And when I say every angle, it most certainly includes yours. I argue with you, trysts, but the truth is, I'm very happy you're expressing your view. You are a woman, and I am getting access to a perspective I don't have as a result. I consider that really valuable.
So funny...No, Elubas, you can't take any credit whatsoever for me thinking critically. Sorry, I know it may be shocking to read that, but it's the truth. You haven't taught me anything. I have no idea what your position is on anything because you don't edit your thoughts for clarity. As far as I know you can't make a statement, so I have to rummage through the garage sale of your mind. Usually there's only a broken lamp or some old cookie cutters there--kind of disappointing...
Honestly trysts, I don't always know what it is that's unclear. Like take for example the post you quoted. What parts don't make sense? If I had a better idea of what it is you didn't understand, I would know how to better phrase it. Obviously, my own post makes sense to me, but I can't get into your head, and maybe that's why I have trouble communicating to you. It happens trysts, no need to mock my mind.
I said sexism is a way of thinking. Isn't that clear enough? I said that it depends on internal thoughts. Isn't that reasonably clear? Does a person reject something just because a woman said it? Are they less likely to listen to something because they're speaking to a woman? Just stuff like that.
I just think it's easier to point out specific things in my posts you want clarified, rather than just put your rating on the whole thing and move on. Because I'm trying to discuss with you, and believe it or not, I'm putting in an effort. You can at least try to see what I'm saying, even if I didn't make it very easy to (it's certainly not intentional).
Sexism is not a way of thinking, for heaven's sake. It's systemic discrimination based on gender.
Mar 24, 2016
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#310
You need an editor, Elubas. Just look at post #360. You used over 20 words to say "yes".
bigpoison wrote:
Sexism is not a way of thinking, for heaven's sake. It's systemic discrimination based on gender.
Well, it can be that, too. I'd say it can be both. I think a lot of times, if you look at how a person was thinking, the biases they used to make their conclusions, that can give a lot of insight into whether or not they're sexist. So that's what I meant.
trysts wrote:
You need an editor, Elubas. Just look at post #360. You used over 20 words to say "yes".
A little derogatory, but at least you're being more specific, and I do appreciate that. I just wanted to emphasize that I look at things on a case by case basis. But you're right, I didn't have to include that. It's just my style of doing things. But I'm willing to change that style a bit if it helps other people understand me.
Mar 24, 2016
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#313
JDA1958 wrote:
The overwhelming majority of men are not, Murderers, rapists, molesters or sexually harrass people. But the overwhelming majority of people who do these things are men. So it is a male problem. All you seem to want to do is justify it by saying it is in their nature and worse thing 'happen-at-sea'.
If you want to focus on irrelevant info, sure, lol.
Most people with black hair don't have aids, but a higher percentage of people with black hair contract aids than people with red hair. So aids is a problem for people with black hair.
See how that works?
Mar 24, 2016
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#314
Elubas wrote:
trysts wrote:
You need an editor, Elubas. Just look at post #360. You used over 20 words to say "yes".
A little derogatory, but at least you're being more specific, and I do appreciate that. I just wanted to emphasize that I look at things on a case by case basis. But you're right, I didn't have to include that. It's just my style of doing things. But I'm willing to change that style a bit if it helps other people understand me.
Don't change your style yet, I'm only on my first drink
Mar 24, 2016
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#315
regarding editing
Even though my last post just did it...
it helps to not give examples, and don't talk for the listener. Just state your points.
Sometimes it helps to type it all out (whatever you want to say), then after you write your conclusion sentence, you can delete the other 8 that were above it, and start from there. Then you'll discover your post is much more concise.
This has been my experience in the past anyway.
Mar 24, 2016
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#316
I write down a lot of my thoughts first, then edit as I type them out. It's best for me when someone is here with me so I can run it by them before I post:)
Post#373: I feel like my points would be even more abstract without examples. But I probably do use too many.
It takes enough effort in the first place just to make my point, now I have to make it concise? :) But yeah your tips make a lot of sense, thanks. Although making things easy for you guys on chess.com is not the top of my priorities, I'll gradually work on it :)
But sometimes you gotta rant too, and it feels good, hehe.
The overwhelming majority of men are not, Murderers, rapists, molesters or sexually harrass people. But the overwhelming majority of people who do these things are men. So it is a male problem. All you seem to want to do is justify it by saying it is in their nature and worse thing 'happen-at-sea'.
I say almost the opposite of this at post #295. But again, you just don't care to actually see what my view is. Someone who is so careless is trying to lecture me on integrity. It's so unfortunate.