In this era, who is best at chess means asking who can be the most like a computer.
Anish Giri seems to be getting there. On the other hand, you never know if the other contenders are subtly assigning him the Wijk Aan Zee win this year. I'd say we give it to him.
Who's Better?: Bobby Fischer, Garry Kasparov, or Magnus Carlsen
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Jan 19, 2023
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#443
Count how many players have been rated 2nd or 3rd in the world while Carlsen has been number 1 and compare that to the Kasparov and Fischer eras.
Chess right now is far more difficult than ever before, in large part because the best players prepare and memorize all sorts of nasty opening traps, but also because their technique is so much better than players who benefitted from adjournments.
Today, players have to know more technical endgames and be able to execute tough decisions with very little time.
Take a close look at the famous decisive game from the Nepo-Carlsen world championship match. Carlsen played nearly perfect chess, often with less than a minute on his clock.
Jan 19, 2023
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#444
zone_chess wrote:
In this era, who is best at chess means asking who can be the most like a computer.
Anish Giri seems to be getting there. On the other hand, you never know if the other contenders are subtly assigning him the Wijk Aan Zee win this year. I'd say we give it to him.
Anish plays more creatively than a computer but I do somewhat see your comparison as he is solid and stockfishy with some of his moves. It's an awesome talent though it's pretty quick to predict him to win TATA Steel.
Jan 19, 2023
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#445
SmyslovFan wrote:
Count how many players have been rated 2nd or 3rd in the world while Carlsen has been number 1 and compare that to the Kasparov and Fischer eras.
Chess right now is far more difficult than ever before, in large part because the best players prepare and memorize all sorts of nasty opening traps, but also because their technique is so much better than players who benefitted from adjournments.
Today, players have to know more technical endgames and be able to execute tough decisions with very little time.
Take a close look at the famous decisive game from the Nepo-Carlsen world championship match. Carlsen played nearly perfect chess, often with less than a minute on his clock.
Hard to argue with your logic though Carlsen played to make time controls so he wasn't going to blunder anything or risk at that point.
SmyslovFan wrote:
Count how many players have been rated 2nd or 3rd in the world while Carlsen has been number 1 and compare that to the Kasparov and Fischer eras.
Chess right now is far more difficult than ever before, in large part because the best players prepare and memorize all sorts of nasty opening traps, but also because their technique is so much better than players who benefitted from adjournments.
Today, players have to know more technical endgames and be able to execute tough decisions with very little time.
Take a close look at the famous decisive game from the Nepo-Carlsen world championship match. Carlsen played nearly perfect chess, often with less than a minute on his clock.
This statement is nonsense in my opinion. There were a smaller pool of very high quality players that Kasparov and Fischer clashed with greater frequency than Magnus Carlsen did. Carlsen had never faced anybody like Korchnoi or Karpov. Endgame players of the best are just as good as modern day grandmasters. The past players didn't constantly benefit from adjournments, not true at all.
I gotta go with Kasparov
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Jan 20, 2023
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#452
I don't know between Carlsen and Kasparov, I think it's very close.
Definitely not Fischer, though.
Jan 20, 2023
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#453
Who is already in a coffin? . . .
Then what is the use of comparing them? . . .
kellermorgan wrote:
bro he sucks my nutz
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Jan 29, 2023
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#456
Who keeps a coffin in the living room?
It obviously belongs in the dying room.
Jan 29, 2023
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#457
i had one in my living room for Halloween in 1974
but my wife made made me to get rid of it.. . .
I'm going to be cremated . .
Jan 30, 2023
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#459
RichColorado wrote:
Who is already in a coffin? . . .
Then what is the use of comparing them? . . .
There’s a Viking saying: the measure of a man is best taken when he’s down.
Better maybe not but he has enough knowledge to draw a Berlin which has been seen many times. I still agree with Kasparov being better as he won in the 2005 match although Carlsen was still developing. I did see an online game later though where Carlsen had a win but missed it and Kasparov much older got a draw so I'm with you on that point.
Magnus Carlsen was 15 during 2005, nowhere near the level of a World Champion level player. Magnus Carlsen was about 2400-2500 elo when he was 13.