Why are *all* chess.com rated tournament games forced to be rated?

Sort:
Cherub_Enjel

I signed up for some tournaments here, and there's one thing that makes no sense.

When you play against a player rated 600 points or more below you, you can't gain any rating points for a win, but you lose a bunch if you draw or lose.

In tournaments though, you get paired up with these players by force, since chess.com tournaments are at least round-robin, and sometimes you even get 2 games against these players each. 

Although online ratings are nothing compared to OTB ratings, the whole idea of this should just be changed simply. 

If you get +0 for a win, the game should just be unrated automatically - a game only giving points to a single player while the other player can only lose points is ridiculous.

Also, the idea of giving fractions of a point would also be correct. 

 

MechHand

I think it's kinda fair if you think if it like a FIDE tournament. In an open FIDE tournament it would be the same. It's maybe less fair here because of the possibility of cheating but assuming most players arent cheaters it's a fair set up in my personal opinion

Boris79

I do not know why this is. But, at least I answered. That is the best I can do, and my Chess is getting much worse. I used to be able to anticipate my opponents' moves. Now, I can barely anticipate my own. 

human-in-training

@ Cherub:

I dig the idea of partial points, but the biggest problem is being paired with someone rated that much lower than you in the first place.

This is why i won't play in 'open' tournaments (except that i'm trying to avoid players rated 600 points higher than me -- i don't see the point in joining a tournament with such odds against me -- i can get my share of ass-whoopings by ultra-superior players outside of tournaments).  I now stick to tournaments that have ratings ranges of only a couple of hundred.

Solution:  Create your own tournaments, tweaked just the way you like them -- you could even have custom Cherub-esque trophies.

human-in-training

@ Boris:

Pretty sure you're lost -- this isn't the neighborhood you're looking for.

universityofpawns

in USCF and FIDE OTB tournaments you NEVER get paired with people 600 points below you....they are in a different class...so I think Cherub has a good point...

MechHand

universityofpawns wrote:

in USCF and FIDE OTB tournaments you NEVER get paired with people 600 points below you....they are in a different class...so I think Cherub has a good point...

There has to be some tournaments out there that are totally open though right? Plus you can always join one of the tournaments that have a rating restriction so you don't have to worry about your points going too far down

Cherub_Enjel

FIDE ratings have decimals though, so there's no argument there. 

The idea is that even winning +0.1 makes the system balanced again. But +0 implies that you never lose/draw, no matter how many games you play, which obviously isn't true of a 600 point rating difference. 

MickinMD

Since being pair with someone 600 points lower than you is somewhat ridiculous, I agree the higher rated player shouldn't lose points if he can't gain points.

universityofpawns

Yeah, the rounding error gets you if your gain is less than +0.5 I guess.