Why Canchu En Passant Outta Check ?

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BlueHen86
Thee_Ghostess_Lola wrote:

is it STILL illegal if pxp e.p. ?...since ur move hasnt been determined yet by ur opp ?

see ?...ur assuming that ur opps gonna make the best move. wrong2do !!

 You can't be in check after you move. That applies in all situations, not just e.p.

Besides, if we're going to play illegal moves, why doesn't white just answer c5 with QxK instead of pxp?

technical_knockout
Thee_Ghostess_Lola wrote:

is it STILL illegal if pxp e.p. ?...since ur move hasnt been determined yet by ur opp ?

see ?...ur assuming that ur opps gonna make the best move. wrong2do !!

yes, it's still illegal;  as they can stop the clock, call the arbiter, point out that an illegal move has been played & win on the spot.

whether or not they can self-block their own check is entirely irrelevant i'm afraid.

Thee_Ghostess_Lola

EXACTLY !!...tyvm !...take my king ! (think im scared ?)...just like in blitz. en passant is pathetically assumptive and arbitrary. there should be NO ROOM in chess for this dorky rule.

put another way ?...when i make a move now its your move. NOT when i make a move YOU getta physically choose HOW you want MY move played !...that dumb way is called INTERPRETIVE CHESS and it has NO PLACE in our most beautiful game !

here...lemme make it a little clearer...I CANT STAND EN PISSANT !!

AussieMatey

As Black is proceeding up to ...c5, he hovers on the c6 square, and White plays dxc6, so instead of Black himself getting out of check ,as per usual, it is White who has generously got Black out of check.

ChesswithGautham

If you can’t stand it, don’t play chess.

archaja

One should consider why e.p. was introduced. Some 140 years ago the rules changed. It was allowed to move the pawns two squares foreward with the first move. But now it would have been possible to pass by a pawn on the 6th or 4th without beeing captured yourself. That was concidered bad and so, short after the introducing of the two step rule the e.p. rule was created.

I think it is a funny rule and I like it. It´s unique that you can catch a pawn without touching it. The only downside for me is, that I very often miss it in the tactical tasks wink.png

https://www.chess.com/article/view/en-passant-awareness

Thee_Ghostess_Lola
ChesswithGautham wrote:

If you can’t stand it, don’t play chess.

thats mouthy. OHH...and btw, i make this on pissant play against bottom 5% players (as yourself)  justa see if u know it...& mosta u dont ! (let alone how to checkmate w/ K+Q vs K)

...so im quite surprised that u even possess the awareness...burst !

Thee_Ghostess_Lola

it is White who has generously got Black out of check.

...and probably by accident.

in theory blacks pawn ghost-occupies c6. thinka it this way if ur all cloudy & stuff. and trust me. i know a little about transparency happy.png .

so for (1) move blacks c-pawn resides on both c6 AND c5. correct me if im wrong ?

Martin_Stahl
Thee_Ghostess_Lola wrote:

it is White who has generously got Black out of check.

...and probably by accident.

in theory blacks pawn ghost-occupies c6. thinka it this way if ur all cloudy & stuff. and trust me. i know a little about transparency  .

so for (1) move blacks c-pawn resides on both c6 AND c5. correct me if im wrong ?

 

The pawn would be on c5 but it can be captured as if it was on c6. It's not actually on the square.

Rook1019

I think you are somewhat confused on how en passant works. Your opponent does not ever get to determine the move you made on your previous turn. If you play c5 and your opponent replies with dxc6 e. p., they are only capturing as if you moved your pawn one square forward. the words 'as if' means that they are not choosing to make your last move c6, your last move was still c5, but because of en passant they can capture your pawn. What makes en passant special is not that you opponent determines what you play, it is that it lets a player use a pawn to capture a piece that is not diagonally in front of the pawn.  In fact, there is no chess move that allows any player to change what had already been played in the game. En passant does not allow your opponent to undo your move and replace it with a different move. Your move was to move your pawn two squares forward, the square you moved it to (c5 in the original example) is where the pawn ends up after your move, and if it is on c5 it can't be on c6. Suggesting that your opponent can capture en passant to turn your previous move into a legal move is about as ridiculous as suggesting that you can move into check because the opponent can move away the piece attacking that square on their next move. That is simply not how chess works.

Thee_Ghostess_Lola

It's not actually on the square.

ohh yes it is !...if its not actually on the square then why can u capture it ?

see ??...the pawn is bilocated. its practically on c5 and theoretically on c6. ITS OCCUPYING BOTH SQUARES. what we have e/o is a pawn ghost...yee !!

BlueHen86

It's not on both squares.

Rook1019
Thee_Ghostess_Lola wrote:

It's not actually on the square.

ohh yes it is !...if its not actually on the square then why can u capture it ?

see ??...the pawn is bilocationed. its practically on c5 and theoretically on c6. ITS OCCUPYING BOTH SQUARES. what we have e/o is a pawn ghost...yee !!

The fact that the pawn is not on the square is precisely what makes en passant a special move. You cannot create a 'ghost pawn' when you make a move because those don't exist in chess!

Lagomorph
Thee_Ghostess_Lola wrote:

if u go back to my post #1 this so-called illegal move is the ONLY position in all a chess that assumes whites move - in advance !!

insanely stupid ! 

Still posting rubbish after all these years

BlingGamer
Thee_Ghostess_Lola wrote:

Watch...

 

my good sir, have you forgotten the rules of chess?
The only way to stop a check is to move the king, take the checking piece, or blocking the line of check.
In the instance of 1... c5, the white king is still in check, which violates this rule. And as stated by a few people, white doesn't have to capture en passant if it does not benefit him. En passant is a choice, so white may not want this choice. therefore, 1. ... c5 would be an illegal move
Alternatively, you CAN take en passant to stop a check, not the checking side

BlueHen86

I don't like that knights can jump over other pieces. I mean, if it's jumping then it's in the air, so it's not even on the board. Also, why does it move like an 'L'? I've seen equestrian on TV, the horses don't change direction in mid air; and they jump over little obstacles, no way a horse can jump over a castle. It's not realistic.

If we're going to change chess rules that we don't like we should start with this one, every game has 4 knights, not every game has an e.p. capture.

archaja

Think he is a lost case. I quit the threat. Good by!

Thee_Ghostess_Lola

Still posting rubbish after all these years

idc how abusive ppl get (when their rating is debris).

chaotikitat

White is lost as they have no king…

 

Thee_Ghostess_Lola

on pissant is arb & sus. it was put in the game cuzza ppl louzier than steinitz wanted to speed the game up. member ?...steinitz lobbied for NO on pissant...and lobbied hard !