There was something else I was going to put in my list of possibles. I won't say what it is.
I'll be 72 in May. I really wish there were more hours in the day so I could talk to people I like AND do all the stuff I have to do. So, to work.
Why is chess a sport?
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There have been a few decent films made in the past 15 years .... in fact, some very good ones. I was watching a British one, maybe 15 years old .... "Wish you were here" .... a truly superb dramatisation of events leading up to a famous sex scandal which occurred in London round about the 1980s. I actually really like some very old Japanese silent films and such. We call them films, not movies. My apologies. The old word for them here was "pictures", as in "moving pictures".
Oooopps! I totally missed that post earlier and just saw it!
Well, thank you for sharing 
I'll think about it all, but right now, let me advise you two "modern" movies, all American and really worth watching:
Bringing out the dead
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Considering your obviously narrow views upon things, you're not at the end of all the surprises you'll find on your way to wherever you're heading...
@Optimissed What do you think about Battleship Potemkin?
I saw that film (movie) many years ago. At a guess, round about 1990. I thought it was good and a few years later didn't take the chance to watch it again but would do so now. To some extent a glorification of a disaster. Lenin was an evil person. I don't believe Trotsky was evil. Marx rated himself too high. All he did was turn round an excessively simplistic idea by Hegel into its polar opposite and he believed in it. I think genuinely believed. That isn't bright but he had a good beard and so people believed.
Why do you ask??
Hail_Satan_My_Master_666 wrote:
MelvinGarvey wrote:
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There have been a few decent films made in the past 15 years .... in fact, some very good ones. I was watching a British one, maybe 15 years old .... "Wish you were here" .... a truly superb dramatisation of events leading up to a famous sex scandal which occurred in London round about the 1980s. I actually really like some very old Japanese silent films and such. We call them films, not movies. My apologies. The old word for them here was "pictures", as in "moving pictures".
Oooopps! I totally missed that post earlier and just saw it!
Well, thank you for sharing
I'll think about it all, but right now, let me advise you two "modern" movies, all American and really worth watching:
Bringing out the dead
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wondering how this topic ended up discussing movies!
Melvin was discussing dishonest debating techniques as witnessed on this topic. He saw a French film about them and then started discussing French films.
Hail_Satan_My_Master_666 wrote:
chess is a board game not a sport. but at the same time chess is the goat.
Do you know, I have an English friend who has a mobile phone and there are two treble sixes in his phone number. Now you're jealous.
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I saw that film (movie) many years ago. At a guess, round about 1990. I thought it was good and a few years later didn't take the chance to watch it again but would do so now. To some extent a glorification of a disaster. Lenin was an evil person. I don't believe Trotsky was evil. Marx rated himself too high. All he did was turn round an excessively simplistic idea by Hegel into its polar opposite and he believed in it. I think genuinely believed. That isn't bright but he had a good beard and so people believed.
Why do you ask??
Your fondness for b/w films.
Wasn’t Lenin in western Europe during the 1905 failed revolution?
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Optimissed wrote:
I saw that film (movie) many years ago. At a guess, round about 1990. I thought it was good and a few years later didn't take the chance to watch it again but would do so now. To some extent a glorification of a disaster. Lenin was an evil person. I don't believe Trotsky was evil. Marx rated himself too high. All he did was turn round an excessively simplistic idea by Hegel into its polar opposite and he believed in it. I think genuinely believed. That isn't bright but he had a good beard and so people believed.
Why do you ask??
Your fondness for b/w films.
Wasn’t Lenin in western Europe during the 1905 failed revolution?
I don't know but he was definitely an extremist, who basically believed in elitism and the use of terror tactics. The split of the revolutionaries naturally caused Bolshevism, which is defined as the rule of the majority, to form exclusive groups which carried the real power, unlike the Menshevik belief in a pure socialism. Bolshevism is naturally bound to produce authoritarian rule .... it's fundamentally undemocratic and Lenin caused that movement to rise, so that he can be considered directly responsible for pretty much everything which followed.
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I believe it's an accidental and unintended effect of changes to the human constitution.
I discovered in a French movie (I rarely watch French movies, most of them being just boring), that all foul tricks, manipulations and all, are actually academically taught in universities, for the sake of "winning a debate/argument". The teacher tells his student that truth matter not, winning is what matters, and what matters only.
The "Odessa steps" scene from "Battleship Potemkin" is a classic and created a sensation in its day because it was the first film to use newly-invented film editing technology to frequently and instantly cut from one point of view to another. I prefer Sergei Eisenstein's later works "Alexander Nevsky" and "Ivan the Terrible".
There are probably three reasons that it seems like "modern" films don't measure up to older movies:
The vast number of cheap second/third-rate movies of yesteryear have long been relegated to the dustbin, meaning the ones we still see are the cream of the crop while we are exposed to all of today's junk.
The movie-going audience has changed with the growth of home theater systems and streaming services, leaving the movie theaters (and the film studios that supply them) to the less sophisticated teen/young adult crowd out on a date.
Those of us commenting here are all old fogies.
I watched a very old silent Japanese b&w film from maybe 1923 about warring clans in Japan, in the early days of Netflix. Netflix is now full of complete rubbish and I can't remember the name of that film.
I agree
why chass is sport? cus braking things when u r angry isnt sport.. very relevant .
Ah, I'm none of the professions you listed, I'm a working class guy, dropped from school and ex homeless punk. A pure outcast from trade. I can't tell my job on here, and can't tell why (boooo!).
But you said it very well: life is hard, if you try or won't try, it'll be hard anyway, and trouble will come find you in your sanctuary of tranquility if you try to stay away from trouble.
Being very aware of the latest, most of my life I've been grabbing the bull by the horns rather than wait for the squads of pain and misery to find my hideout.
And well, I paid some price for it, but it was worth it. Now, old, sick and disabled, at 5 years from retirement, I can confidently seat home on my days off, knowing that trouble fears me more than I fear it, and will hesitate long before to dare set a foot on my landmines