"Chess is about warfare." prrfff.
Why is this game so male-dominated?
It is male dominated. A bit like in music. 95% of the conducters are males, composers the same story. But, there is one thing I don't understand about women (and I am a woman myself, and yet, I don't get it) If you have the brains, why ruin it for yourself? I've been searching the internet for pictures of Ivanchuk posing half naked with a chessboard, but such pictures just don't exist. While women do it all the time. Why is that? If you have the brains, for heaven's sake, to blow away most males, why on earth would you do that?
In reference to music I do like the idea that women should always dominate the dance floor, but I'm not much of a dancer. I also admit that I enjoy the sight of a beautiful woman even if she does have great skill at chess, maybe more so because of it; however I have yet to see any half naked pictures of great players. On the other hand the beaches in some parts of Europe....

Biologically, who hunts and fights big battles? Men. Chess is about warfare. Therefore, most women will be put off by the non subtleties of chess. Not all women. Just most.
What about changing all the pieces to cartoon characters!
You could..Say..have 8 Donald ducks as pawns, maybe Micky Mouse as the King and Mini as his Queen, That big rooster...The one that says " I say,i say boy"as the bishops, Yo samity Sam as the Knights n The Disney castle as the Rooks.....Not so warfare-ish now is it! But i bet you could still have a decent very interesting game of chess.
Biologically, who hunts and fights big battles? Men. Chess is about warfare. Therefore, most women will be put off by the non subtleties of chess. Not all women. Just most.
Not an accurate comparison at all. Success at hunting and fighting real-life battles is somewhat influenced by differences in physical strength and endurance. In cases like this I can accept that the biological/structural differences between men and women play a part (much moreso than whether women are "put off by the non-subtleties" of these activities, lol)
Chess, however, is a purely mental sport.

The point is a general group characteristic, while it will predict something better than no general group characteristic at all... it will still be wrong too often.
If the only information you knew about two people was that one was Irish and the other was some "non-drinking nationality," and if you had to guess who was the heavy drinker, then Irish would be a better guess. Yet if there were high stakes behind this guess, you'd probably be nervous -- you might have a feeling you will be right, but know you could very well be wrong as well. Certainly you'd be way more confident if you knew a lot more information about the two people. In fact with enough information it might become obvious to you that the Irish man is not the drinker based on the specific characteristics you learned and observed from the two people.
So the fact that someone is Irish might in the long run be better information than no information at all, that still doesn't imply that it's, in itself, especially useful. Even if in this experiment there was say a 55% chance of it being the Irish guy and a 45% chance of it being the other guy, the fact that 45% of the time you'd be wrong is significant.
I thought the only information we knew about these two people were that one was Irish? How did they turn in to guys?
Plus, I don't think you've ever been to Ireland. It's no more likely that an Irish person is a drunk than any other nationality. Sheesh.

Does this thread read like hairsplitting by bald men?
Or is it better conceptualized as two, one-legged men, in an arse-kicking contest?
I thought the answer was "Girls Just Wanna Have Fun." Let's all sing along.

Does this thread read like hairsplitting by bald men? Or is it better conceptualized as two, one-legged men, in an arse-kicking contest?
I thought that "Girls Just Wanna Have Fun." Let's all just sing along.
I vote for the one legged men. It must be some sort of tag team thing.
I'm uncertain about how this information is useful. You don't automatically get a bump in your rating because you are male.
I wonder what motivates people to participate in this discussion over and over again; year after year. I'll have to ponder that one. This will be my fourth message in this thread.

bigpoison: It's all an example. I could have used a made up type of person if I wanted to, in a made up universe, with made up characteristics and made up percentages. It is all to prove a point.
If I at some point make up an example about me hypothetically murdering someone, it will not imply that I want to do so in real life
Whether or not it is true that more Irish people are heavy drinkers (because it may very well be entirely false), it doesn't change my point that it can be, in general, difficult to be confident in a judgment of someone based on what group they come from.
As that was my main point, do you agree with me on that point?

We could make them two women as well. If you want to view it that way there's nothing wrong with that. Whatever the gender, nationality, as long as the point made is the same it should work just as well. We could make the Irish person the one who only has a 45% chance of being the drinker -- it really doesn't matter because it illustrates the same general idea.

What happened here 3 days ago? "2 or 3 days of beer" suggested, and then ...... silence?! ....
What the .... heck could this mean? .... and please don't tell me Chess-Posters have lost interest in BS! --- Seriously, why go on in a world that makes no sense? -- a world without meaning? (or, at least a few familiar guide-"posts") ....?
Sincerely, "Disturbed in Georgia"

You know a thread's dead when the Royal Spam Society starts posting nonsense.
Sometimes, that's when it gets good.

Since we're back onto IQ and into the territory of deliberately adjusting bias in the test until you get the result you want, I recommend that you all try to get ahold of a copy of a book written back in the early 70s called "The Application of Professor X...or The Sociology of the Absurd"
Written by a very clever American (is that an oxymoron?) called Daniel Boorstin, it skewers all sorts of psychosociological PC movements with the proposal of an EQ, the "Ethnicity Quotient", which would be measurable, partly inherited and modifiable by individual circumstances.
Well worth reading, if you have a taste for hidden humour
Biologically, who hunts and fights big battles? Men. Chess is about warfare. Therefore, most women will be put off by the non subtleties of chess. Not all women. Just most.