Yereslov's Immortal

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Yereslov wrote:
 

The great thing about machines is that they are not affected by psychology. They are pure calculating machines.

I'm afraid they are a wee bit affected by an urgent wish to resign when they are two pieces down for nothing, sir.

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pfren wrote:
Yereslov wrote:
 

The great thing about machines is that they are not affected by psychology. They are pure calculating machines.

I'm afraid they are a wee bit affected by an urgent wish to resign when they are two pieces down for nothing, sir.

You are arguing against a Super GM basically.

Machines, unlike yourself do not have feelings. 

Their analysis is pure calculation. Come on now. The machine is calculating each line 20-30 moves deep. 

It doesn't make mistakes when it states Nd2 is a draw.

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Yereslov wrote:

It doesn't make mistakes when it states Nd2 is a draw.

First, there is no Nd2 in the above line. Obviously, you are not bright enough to tell between the above line (where white ends up a couple of pieces up), and the game you played against Helzeth.

Anyway, if you claim that your game against Helzeth (where he played sub-optimally, but still good enough to beat the sh!t out of you) is a draw after his 23.Nd2, then... dream on. Black is quite likely lost, even there.

Just out of curisosiy, I fed this position to an engine, which gives at the end (twenty minutes thought) a +0.76 advantage to white, so yeah... a dead draw. Maybe a dead win, if your opponent has a heart attack in the meanwhile.

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anyone ever get the feeling that having a discussion with some people here is like having an intelligent conversation with a bunch of Teletubbies?
adding Yerselov to my list with gravinator and whatupd 

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Teletubbies are friendlier, and probably better at chess too Cool

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These forums are for intelligent conversation?

Surely you're joking Mr. Feynman.

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pfren wrote:
Yereslov wrote:

It doesn't make mistakes when it states Nd2 is a draw.

First, there is no Nd2 in the above line. Obviously, you are not bright enough to tell between the above line (where white ends up a couple of pieces up), and the game you played against Helzeth.

Anyway, if you claim that your game against Helzeth (where he played sub-optimally, but still good enough to beat the sh!t out of you) is a draw after his 23.Nd2, then... dream on. Black is quite likely lost, even there.

Just out of curisosiy, I fed this position to an engine, which gives at the end (twenty minutes thought) a +0.76 advantage to white, so yeah... a dead draw. Maybe a dead win, if your opponent has a heart attack in the meanwhile.

You must have used low-end software. Nd2 draws the game. I'll even prove it to you.

By the way 0.66 and 0.75 comes up in most famous grandmaster games.

The position evens out with further play.

I would have drawn had I played the right move.

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I'm really tired of your nonsense and "woulds". Bye, immortal champion.

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Chess4001 wrote:

your rating is 1315 standard and back to your very first game that was NOT the definition of immortal. hmm you missed free pieces and disregard an international master's advice. 

your "immortal" is really childs play compared to real chess. does anyone really care about a blunder-filled, retrospectfully flawed-up-calculated game? do you realize we have had enough? i laugh so hard silently while reading this thread. wow, much entertaining than the parham attack one and the "last one to post is the biggest fan!!!!!!!!!!"

Did you actually analyze the game? It's not blunder-filled.

Show me a line that wins. 

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Chess4001 wrote:

your rating is 1315 standard and back to your very first game that was NOT the definition of immortal. hmm you missed free pieces and disregard an international master's advice. 

your "immortal" is really childs play compared to real chess. does anyone really care about a blunder-filled, retrospectfully flawed-up-calculated game? do you realize we have had enough? i laugh so hard silently while reading this thread. wow, much entertaining than the parham attack one and the "last one to post is the biggest fan!!!!!!!!!!"

By the way, I just watched a game where a 2100+ got killed by a 1600+.

It's rather sad that the 2000+ players here play like amateurs. You miss moves even I can spot.

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and yereslov, you're just a 1300. you know nothing of how 2000s play and you know nothing of engines and their meanings

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Chess4001 wrote:

and yereslov, you're just a 1300. you know nothing of how 2000s play and you know nothing of engines and their meanings

I know all the tactics involved in chess. You really have nothing ahead of me.

P.S. The engine gave my previous game a draw with the same position.

Are you upset because a machine three hundred times better than you proved you wrong?

The machines gives about 1.00 to white, then it evens out to .65, and eventually 0.50.

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http://www.chess.com/livechess/game.html?id=306465828

Please notice white's 15th. Its apparent that white knows all tactics- factly, he is a master of the universe.

I just don't understand where after that he made a subtle mistake, and lost. According to his theory, being a piece down is a forced draw.

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Maybe we should ask the E8 guy who recently solved chess with colors, advanced physics, and a 3D chess board.

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pfren wrote:

http://www.chess.com/livechess/game.html?id=306465828

Please notice white's 15th. Its apparent that white knows all tactics- factly, he is a master of the universe.

I just don't understand where after that he made a subtle mistake, and lost. According to his theory, being a piece down is a forced draw.

  He wasnt putting rybkas moves into that game. This means that the result of the game was nulled.

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pfren wrote:

http://www.chess.com/livechess/game.html?id=306465828

Please notice white's 15th. Its apparent that white knows all tactics- factly, he is a master of the universe.

I just don't understand where after that he made a subtle mistake, and lost. According to his theory, being a piece down is a forced draw.

It's a drawish position either way.

Of course, I played the last moves like crap.

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Nah, no. It's not drawish, it's a dead draw.

The bishops are opposite colored - your opponents is black squared, while yours is already gobbled, so it has no color.

You should demand a draw immediately.

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pfren wrote:

Nah, no. It's not drawish, it's a dead draw.

The bishops are opposite colored - your opponents is black squared, while yours is already gobbled, so it has no color.

You should demand a draw immediately.

I have seen GM's play rook+bishop vs rook games and draw.

It's not that odd. Maybe you should just accept that you're a dimwit.

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