Anand was understandably pissed off. The tiebreak rules were clearly stated and he won. After that the organisers decided that he hadn't because they thought it would be fun with a couple of blitz games. Then they changed it to an Armageddon game, that Nakamura won.
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The sudden change of tournament regulations after the tournament had officially ended is incredibly unprofessional and brings the tournament into disrepute, after it had already been hurt by Skvortsov's attack on Carlsen (see below).
http://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/no-carlsen-in-zurich-2015
Vishy took an early draw with Karjakin ,knowing he is ahead of Naka on TB.
Naka won although he didn't win blitz, rapid or classical. LOL
Nakamura beat vishy twice today. He won the armageddon with black and won the tournament fair and square. Deal with it.
3kush3 wrote:
Vishy took an early draw with Karjakin ,knowing he is ahead of Naka on TB.
Yes , the reason he settled for an early draw was because he knew he was ahead on tie break and would win the tournament , not knowing what was to follow afterwards .
Real chess is simply too difficult for Naka. He can only win some blitz games, where players move their pieces like stressed monkeys
Why not settle it over the board instead of on some tiebreak system? It's more fun for the fans. Just ask Nigel Short, who drank his way through the GRENKE playoff and enjoyed himself mightily (wink).
Oh well, at least Vishy's fans now have a permanent grievance. And Naka's fans can celebrate another win this year. Everybody gets something!
VeeDeeVee wrote:
Real chess is simply too difficult for Naka. He can only win some blitz games, where players move their pieces like stressed monkeys
Thus spoke the patzer.
Nakamura just won Gibraltar(classical) and clear second in the classical section of Ziruch. In the past 20 games he has notched wins over Karjakin, Topalov, Caruana. That is twoo 2800 players and one strong 2700. Nakamura is currently World #6 on the live list in classical and less than 5 points away from 3rd. He is world number two i rapid and blitz. He is an all around great player and just won an all around event, the Zurich chess challenge. VeeDeeVee is clearly confused.
joekool28 wrote:
Nakamura beat vishy twice today. He won the armageddon with black and won the tournament fair and square. Deal with it.
Vishy beat Nakamura twice in blitz and classical , Nakamura only beat him once today if there were no rules changed after the tournament was over . So it was 2-1 after the tournament ended. Vishy even won the classical part of the tournament beating Nakamura in the process . So it's not so fair and square if you ask me . Opportunity came knocking and Nakamura grabbed it with both hands . The only reason he won was because Vishy decided to play the Armageddon , any lesser (any other ) chess player in his place would've created a controversy and would not have played .
Nakamura won the tournament , so congratulations to you .
Stop bragging .
Problem?
CaseyAbell wrote:
Why not settle it over the board instead of on some tiebreak system? It's more fun for the fans. Just ask Nigel Short, who drank his way through the GRENKE playoff and enjoyed himself mightily (wink).
Oh well, at least Vishy's fans now have a permanent grievance. And Naka's fans can celebrate another win this year. Everybody gets something!
That's exactly what those retarded organizers thought , to settle it over the board . The only problem was that it wasn't predecided and hence wrong . Vishy fans have had a lot of permanent greivances and even more permanent happiness through the past 25 years . Nakamura fans can celebrate his record against Carlsen and his 2800 rating (which wasn't to be ) .
Well everybody gets something !
Mohan1092 wrote:
Really disgusting on part of the organizers . Vishy really shouldn't have played the playoff . Changing rules like this at the end like it is a school tournament .
This is most probably the last time you will see Vishy at Zurich . He is not a club player to be meted out with such a treatment .I am not sure if any other chess player in his place would agree to play after such last moment changing of rules . He's always so nice and controversy free , sometimes it really hurts his performance .This is what makes him so easily likeable , he should not have played today .
This!
CaseyAbell joekool28
The rules were changed midway that's the problem. No provision for tie break games. If the shoe was on the other foot Naka would have protested as well. Lost lots of respect for Naka
Someone's bitter. The only record with Carlsen that matters is 0-2. That is Vishy's record with Carlsen where is matters in the WCC. Enjoy!
I could be that the 1-2 tie provision for a game as a tb is in the player's contracts. We are not privy to that information but I doubt the organizers could compel Anand to play an unlawful TB.
Joekool is from school. Forgive him guys. Lacks cognitive dissonance.
Can't blame Hikaru for seizing his chances, but Anand should be considered the moral winner here. At least it wasn't a Russian in the tie-break.