Explain 50 move rule please

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Avatar of MathBandit

Can someone link to the game where the rule was applied with a Mate in Two on the board?

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It should be noted that it is only valid if a player claims it. It does not apply automatically once those 50 moves have been reached. I think the only time I've come across it is when I was playing against a computer in a deadlocked game.

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It can occur in online blitz chess when one side has a time advantage and is trying to convert this into a win.

I am a little surprised that the 50 move rule definition doesn't include castling or moving the king or either rook, so as to eliminate castling as a potential move, like such as is part of the threefold repetition rule.

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Saccadic wrote:

It should be noted that it is only valid if a player claims it. It does not apply automatically once those 50 moves have been reached. I think the only time I've come across it is when I was playing against a computer in a deadlocked game.


 Exactly.  It is not automatic as many people believe.  It must be claimed, and it is basically nothing more than an insurance policy against a player who refuses to accept a draw.  The 50-move rule FORCES the player to accept a draw, IF the other person wishes to force it.  I read of one player (don't ask me when or where or who) who may have used it, but opted not to because of something which had happened earlier in a different game (not wanting to look like a perpetual complainer) and/or they had stopped recording all of the moves, and therefore couldn't PROVE that there had been 50 moves without a capture or pawn movement.

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Harold Golombek G.M.  in one of his books, said he,d only used this rule once.

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According to Wikipedia ...

Later more positions requiring more than fifty moves were found. FIDE included these endgames in the extended rule:

  1. queen versus two bishops
  2. queen versus two knights
  3. two bishops versus a knight
  4. two knights versus a pawn
  5. rook and bishop versus a rook, and
  6. a queen with a pawn on the seventh rank versus a queen.

and it mentions a loooooong endgame ...
As of 2008, the record is 517 moves (assuming best play by both sides) to make a piece capture or exchange that achieves a simpler and more obviously winnable sub-endgame, for a particular position involving queen and knight vs. rook and bishop and knight.

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artfizz wrote:

and it mentions a loooooong endgame ...

As of 2008, the record is 517 moves (assuming best play by both sides) to make a piece capture or exchange that achieves a simpler and more obviously winnable sub-endgame, for a particular position involving queen and knight vs. rook and bishop and knight.


Winning for whom?

Avatar of njsteve1950

Is the fifty move rule automatically enforced in chess.com, or do I have to do the counting? 

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njsteve1950 wrote:

Is the fifty move rule automatically enforced in chess.com, or do I have to do the counting? 

 

It is automatically claimed.

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thank you!