I think my avatar upsets people!
I don't like getting death threats

I wonder what Ozarkers would do without guns? The average income there is pretty low. Living off the land is a part of life.

True. My greatgrandfather came to California from the hills of eastern Tennessee. He used to say that the "Great Smoky Mountains" got their name from all the moonshine stills!

It's a lost cause trying to argue with these liberal types or Non-U.S. Citizens, Elubas. They lack the ability to comprehend a Constitution that freedom loving people have held near and dear ever since severing our ties from a tyrannical British government in 1783 (the official separation of the new nation from British rule).
Translation for liberal types and non-US citizens: you are morons and cannot understand. Reminds me of http://www.conservapedia.com/Freedom_of_press
Elubas is at least trying to read and understand, even if he does not agree. I have had debates with royalists (not the ones who think the Queen of England is a cool person to have around, the ones who think full political power should belong to one person divinely chosen), and even they had more intellectual honesty than you.
With people who share your views living in France, no wonder your country is such a cheap joke to the armed, freedom and defense minded world
Ever hear about France's latest tank? It only drives in reverse, and instead of shells, it fires a white flag.
So shut the hell up about anything involving armed conflict, you lack the knowledge and even the guts to speak on such matters.

Let me know when one of you anti-self-defense sissies does something like this, knowing full well that you could be flying into a hornet's nest of AK-47 wielding cartel growers, with the notion in the back of your head that the criminals you are about to royally screw over might have friends who want revenge. Then you can talk.

No NK, we all have the right to an opinion and just because you are rude and insult people and beat your chest the loudest does not give you the right to try to belittle everyone with a differing view to yours. I admire the job you chose to do and I'm sure lots of American cissies are more than grateful for the protection you afford them to be able to walk and talk in the land of the free. As I too am proud of our British officers and grateful to them and our soldiers, and our firemen, who risk their lives for us each day too. I cannot put myself in theirs or your shoes but the work they do on my behalf allows me to have the freedom to come on here and state my views without being told to button it.

To be fair I guess some confusion might arise when one would claim "If you teleported Jefferson to now, gave him some time to adapt, he might hold a different view." Perhaps this is what you had in mind, bigpoison? It seems to overcomplicate things somewhat, so it never occurred to me to "interpret" old statements in such a way, but perhaps we were talking past each other. I was simply debating over whether or not he claimed that defense with guns is fine, not why he claimed it or whether he would still claim it in a different circumstance.
Again... when we start calling these hypothetical scenarios as part of an "interpretation" it gets really really speculative, not unlike questions of whether Lasker could travel to this time and beat the modern masters. At that point you might as well call it changing the law rather than calling it "reunderstanding the constitution," which I consider disingenuous. Like I said, one can make a fair point that being constitutional is not guaranteed to be desirable; I think some counter points could be made too, but it's a fair point.
The funniest part of the whole thing is that it isn't even a Jefferson quote!
"The passage is from Cesare Beccaria's Essay on Crimes and Punishments."
http://www.monticello.org/site/jefferson/laws-forbid-carrying-armsquotation
Shows what we know. Next, lets argue about why Lincoln said that internet quotes can't be trusted.

Fried squirrel on a stick! Them's good eatin'
Be careful when eating them thar squirrels. Sometimes there is BlowBack --
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-28437338
Small wonder why the news scares people.

With people who share your views living in France, no wonder your country is such a cheap joke to the armed, freedom and defense minded world
Ever hear about France's latest tank? It only drives in reverse, and instead of shells, it fires a white flag.
So shut the hell up about anything involving armed conflict, you lack the knowledge and even the guts to speak on such matters.
Oh my. He is shouting ad hominems and xenophobic rants.
My former prejudice has been swayed by his powerful argumentation!

France became bankrupt supporting the American revolution and fighting the British. If it wasn't for France there would be no USA!
Ungrateful!

France became bankrupt supporting the American revolution and fighting the British. If it wasn't for France there would be no USA!
Ungrateful!
And if it wasn't for bankruptcy, we would still be a monarchy. Ungrateful!
Jamie, you were able to stick around at Chess.com when everyone thought you were a sock puppet, and I've read you take a lot of abuse in some threads. Some peeps at Chess.com are just crabby, and it's impossible to get along with all of them:)