I don't like getting death threats
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JamieDelarosa a écrit :
Prudentia wrote:
The technology is there. But, we aren't dealing with battered women here. We are dealing with chess players. There is no tangible threat to these people, as it's doubtful that any of them have actually been in the physical presence of the offender.
Also, you're goading the offender, and responding to his/her 'threats' willingly, in order to provoke a reaction. At what point are you just as much a part of the problem? This goes for everybody who is feeding that troll.
True. One technique to deal with trolls is to ridicule them... Laugh at them... Mock them. It goes straight to their bruised ego.
And there is safety in numbers. Trolls are cowards.
My first reaction was to withdraw. But I am not going to let the troll manipulate me.
Okay fine, ridicule the troll all you want. I will take no part in that because I don't see any reason to be suckered into an immature internet name calling game. But, keep in mind, if that person really had a vendetta against some of the people on this site, especially you, (who started this thread), you've pretty much signed your death warrant by perpetuating the problem. Also, you've already been manipulated. You're lowering yourself to the level of the troll. Rise above it; have some grace and compassion.
Jul 5, 2014
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Thank you. I understand your point.
You make a persuasive argument.
batgirl wrote:
AlCzervik wrote:
batgirl wrote:
These people have IP adresses and other means of detection. Death threats aren't fun and games, they are criminal acts. When such activity becomes less isolated and a detriment to the site, it seems reasonable that they'll file police reports and track down the miscreants.
Who will file police reports? cc? Reasonable? Yes. Will it be done? Don't hold your breath.
I feel the same way- nothing will happen unless it starts having a detrimental effect on the site in which case it would be a good business decision. Of course each of the persons to whom a death threat was sent has the option and right to file their own police report.
My point in the post you quoted is...this is cc. The site has become less proactive in the last few years. You know, it's all about the numbers for advertisers.
Elubas wrote:
I don't doubt that, but I would not wish this person in jail only based on those messages. That seems extreme.
While you and I are old enough to remember schoolyard arguments where one would yell, "I'm going to kill you!", you must admit things are a little different nowadays.
The taunt in the schoolyard may have been blurted out when the kid was pissed off. To take the time to message another the same thing seems less spontaneous.
So, I say, if caught, send 'em to jail.
JamieDelarosa wrote:
Al, without going into too much detail, on the site I mderated until recently, we were serious about security, because of the nature of our clientele. We could and did trace IP addresses, ban all proxies, block problem users and service providers, and report threats to the local police departments - world wide. Two of our moderators won a commendation for preventing a threatened serious criminal incident.
If the will exists to stop these people, the technology is there.
This is it. Does cc have it?
(yes, it's a rhetorical question)
Trolls are passive-aggressive individuals in real life (so thinks a girl friend, a school counselor). They are apparently neither bullies nor aggressively violent. They have a mean, nasty streak and, in all likelihood, a personality disorder.
In before the lock.
Jul 6, 2014
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AlCzervik wrote:
JamieDelarosa wrote:
Al, without going into too much detail, on the site I mderated until recently, we were serious about security, because of the nature of our clientele. We could and did trace IP addresses, ban all proxies, block problem users and service providers, and report threats to the local police departments - world wide. Two of our moderators won a commendation for preventing a threatened serious criminal incident.
If the will exists to stop these people, the technology is there.
This is it. Does cc have it?
(yes, it's a rhetorical question)
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AlCzervik wrote:
Elubas wrote:
I don't doubt that, but I would not wish this person in jail only based on those messages. That seems extreme.
While you and I are old enough to remember schoolyard arguments where one would yell, "I'm going to kill you!", you must admit things are a little different nowadays.
The taunt in the schoolyard may have been blurted out when the kid was pissed off. To take the time to message another the same thing seems less spontaneous.
So, I say, if caught, send 'em to jail.
How I would have loved to have schoolyard arguments. They were unfortunately not allowed when I went to elementary school.
I would not like to have something like this directed at me and would feel a twinge of disquiet. But I would not join Geoff in regarding it as a real threat.
I have read of people, usually teens, subjected to a tirade of ugly stuff from many people and it is easy to imagine how that might very seriously undermine the victim. But that is a bit remote from what can be seen here.
How to react will be something each person approaches as their particular personality dictates. I don't really know how I think the site should react. Maintaining terms of service which bar such behaviour and excluding people who insist on doing it is easy enough and plainly sensible. Whether it is necessary to put a lot of time trouble and resources into combatting it I rather doubt - although I can see that it might be a more serious matter on some sites than on others. I come here to play chess and, to a slightly lesser extent, to enjoy the chess related activities and the company of fellow chess players. By and large I would rather the people running and contributing to the site were focussing on the chess related activities (as they do) rather than expending a whole lot of time, effort and money on policing the site.
So, I suppose, I need to treat the sort of stuff Jamie had to put up with as a minor irritant that goes with visiting busy internet sites. I am sorry that you had it to put up with, though, Jamie and I hope you are not unfortunate enough to have any more of it.
balente wrote:
I spent 13 years in prison, where "death threat" its like "good morning". Even there the threater normally is not serious, so on the internet, forget it.
Is prison as great as it sounds with the free food and housing?
That's a long time, balente. I hope life has picked up for you since.
johnyoudell wrote:
I would not like to have something like this directed at me and would feel a twinge of disquiet. But I would not join Geoff in regarding it as a real threat.
I have read of people, usually teens, subjected to a tirade of ugly stuff from many people and it is easy to imagine how that might very seriously undermine the victim. But that is a bit remote from what can be seen here.
How to react will be something each person approaches as their particular personality dictates. I can't think of any personality trait that would brush off a death threat .I don't really know how I think the site should react. Imagine you are the site owner, and there are members receiving threats. Maintaining terms of service which bar such behaviour and excluding people who insist on doing it is easy enough and plainly sensible .Easy, if monotored. Whether it is necessary to put a lot of time trouble and resources into combatting it I rather doubt - although I can see that it might be a more serious matter on some sites than on others. Whatever site it is, it's wrong, and, ilegaal. I come here to play chess and, to a slightly lesser extent, to enjoy the chess related activities and the company of fellow chess players. By and large I would rather the people running and contributing to the site were focussing on the chess related activities (as they do) rather than expending a whole lot of time, effort and money on policing the site.============
So, I suppose, I need to treat the sort of stuff Jamie had to put up with as a minor irritant
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How is this thread getting 30+ comments a day???
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Jul 6, 2014
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LudRa95 wrote:
balente wrote:
I spent 13 years in prison, where "death threat" its like "good morning". Even there the threater normally is not serious, so on the internet, forget it.
Is prison as great as it sounds with the free food and housing?
It's fabulous, you should try it!
It beats the elderly home.