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scurly

Can someone intentionaly resign a tournament game and continue to play his other games in the tournament?

In FIDE thats against the rules  (as far as i can remember), its considered favoring some other player and unsportsmanlike conduct.

notmtwain
scurly wrote:

Can someone intentionaly resign a tournament game and continue to play his other games in the tournament?

In FIDE thats against the rules  (as far as i can remember), its considered favoring some other player and unsportsmanlike conduct.

What would be the purpose? 99.9% of people here don't play for money, real trophies or anything like that. So there is no incentive to throw games.

If people did that in one of the very few money prize tournaments like "Titled Tuesdays",  I can see someone adding and enforcing rules like that.

JamieDelarosa
scurly wrote:

Can someone intentionaly resign a tournament game and continue to play his other games in the tournament?

In FIDE thats against the rules  (as far as i can remember), its considered favoring some other player and unsportsmanlike conduct.

We have seen instances, in the past, where players and teams have been discriminated against for political and religious reasons.

Most notably Israel and Israelis.

JMB2010

Is it possible to resign unintentionally?

scurly

Well it is possible to hate another player enough to do it apparently

Murgen

If (hypothetically) I hated another player I'd want to beat them (if I could)... not give them a free win! Laughing

L0pposition
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Spiritbro77

Lets say you're playing in a tournament where two people advance out of 5. If both players are sure to advance, having won enough to eliminate everyone else, but there are still a couple of games left having zero influence over who advances, why play them? Ask for a draw and if they refuse why not just resign those games and move the tournament along faster? The games have no meaning toward who advances in the tournament.....

Dietmar
JMB2010 wrote:

Is it possible to resign unintentionally?

There have been accidental resignations especially when using smart phones. Rare, but it does happen.

YankeWang

so?

scurly

Someone forfeited games in the final round and he still keeps playing with the other players. This should be illegal and he must be disqualified but chess.com did nothing about it. Where is the staff?

arcaneterrain

In the old inclusive tournaments with everyone playing together from unranked to master, there may have been some instances of what we called the "Swiss Gambit" where a player may have not given his all and either lost or drawn an early game so he would be paired down for a few rounds and end up with an easier draw of opponents.

scurly

Why should anyone be allowed to play on when he resigns some of the games in tournaments? Thats not fair to the other players. I am not talking about timing out but intentionally resigning to favor that player.Thats illegal and i expect this player [name removed] in a justice tournament to be disqualified for cheating

[Please don't name & shame in the forums, but report through the Support Centre via https://support.chess.com/customer/portal/emails/new, as you have done - they will get back to you in due time. David]

jamesh67

A couple of days ago I sent in a ticket to chess.com about an incident in a tournament I am playing. One player resigned both his games in the tournament with another player, without a move being played in either game. The two players have very similar ids.

Both players continue to play games in the tournament, no action as yet.

It will be interesting to see if chess.com take action - if not, then the practice of artificially throwing games seems to be allowed.

scurly

I also sent in a ticket about this but they didnt do anything yet

scurly

http://www.chess.com/tournament/justice-group-tourney-gt1500

This is the link to the tournament, final round

scurly

If the staff doesnt disqualify this [name removed] player it is not fair 

arcaneterrain

Very strange, but your opponent may have had too many games to adequately play well and instead of chancing a loss due to poor play, forfeited.  In correspondence I don't like to have too many games.  I do okay in an early round when 2 or 3 opponents play poorly and drop material. It means I only have to play a few games that require me to set up boards, take notes, etc. By second round I am often overwhelmed because the players are better and I do not play my best chess, especially if work and family life is busy. Then I can't take my time on 2 or 4 games but all 8 require it.

jamesh67

scurly, we seem to have the same problem. In my case it is the opening of the only round, and these were among the first games finished. Link is Ray Duque III Chess Tournament and Dancing, 

The Tournament started November 12, and the TD can do nothing about it since chess.com have done nothing, and seem to condone the practice.

jamesh67

Personally I don't understand how these players get away with forfeiting games, or resigning with no moves played to a namesake, then staying to play other games in a tournament.