Perhaps I'm mistaken -- I have so few games on the go that I've really not run across the restriction when I've turned my vacation on manually -- I was simply taking what bsrasmus said at face value.
Site changes, new policies

Frivolous abuse reports are a drain on the resources that should be dealing with actual cases of abuse.
Why not just block him like you do everyone else who disagrees with you?
How is it possilbe that he has not yet blocked 'flags. 'flags is an irrational fella, obviously, if he disagrees with the 'geek.

Well, for the record he didn't call you stupid, he said you said something stupid. That's not a personal attack, it's his assessment of your statement and, as I see it, entirely fair game.
I'd expect that if a user gets multiple abuse reports from a variety of other users in the community then they will absolutely look into it further. On the other hand, if chess.com gets multiple frivolous abuse reports that continuously come from the same user, I'd expect that they'd start to ignore that user's reports. It's a shame, because someday you may actually see a wolf.

That's the same as #2.
Actually, it isn't. Auto-protection kicks in when you are about to lose on time without your action. I'm talking about a paying member changing the status themselves.
The only difference is the mechanism that turns the vacation time on (i.e. automated versus manual) -- the underlying issue is something that's common to both of them -- the fact that you're not required to make your moves prior to starting your vacation however you might initiate it.
Very sorry TheGrobe, but I don't understand. I am ONLY talking about the vacation time I will turn on manually (when needed). In THAT case I've understood that you cannot do it unless you've made all the moves in the ongoing games - has this been changed?
Yes, you can do it without making a move in all of your games -- if you are a paying member.
That means there is a change in the rules & I don't believe this unless I get confirmation from someone who knows

You're a premium member -- why not just try it the next time you have a move to make in one of your games?

You're a premium member -- why not just try it the next time you have a move to make in one of your games?
I don't like the idea at all and I rather stick to the rule I was taught, viz. to put yourself on vacation requires that you make your moves in ALL your games. I have no official information from the administrators that this would have changed, do you?

I'm not sure why that would be an issue -- you can turn your vacation time right back off. I don't know whether it has or has not changed, but just because you have the option go on vacation with pending moves doesn't mean you have to -- I was only suggesting you do so to test whether it was in fact possible, not that you make a habit of it.

I wondered how it was possible for people who play hundreds of games simultaneously to ever go on vacation-- you'd think every time they finished getting through their list making moves they'd find that they'd already gotten a bunch of responses and still had a lot more moves they'd have to make . . . it could take a lot of time before you ever caught up!

I'm not sure why that would be an issue -- you can turn your vacation time right back off. I don't know whether it has or has not changed, but just because you have the option go on vacation with pending moves doesn't mean you have to -- I was only suggesting you do so to test whether it was in fact possible, not that you make a habit of it.
bsrasmus: I have already tried this out. It works. You don't have to make a move in all of your games in order to go on vacation -- if you are a paying member.
That means (to me) that there is a fundamental change in the rules, and a change that I don't think I agree with. In my view, going on vacation should imply that you must first make your move in ALL ongoing games. Could the site admins not intervene here and give some info?

My canary is RainbowRising. He lets forth intemperately now and again ("X is literally a piece of sh*t") and he remains and contributes.
I must be safe despite my "forum stylings" which are tame in comparison.
Even 'geek should be safe, despite calling someone a "dork" in the cheating group 2 months ago. Yes that's an attack and it'd been up and uncensored every day of those two months, but the site has and will survive just fine despite that.
I don't think he's all that worried about personal attacks per se or he would have banned himself or removed his "dork" comment, just very thin skinned when the words are aimed at him.
BTW, in my two years here I've been called some terrible names. I wouldn't dream of having them edited out, even if my widdle feelings were hurt. So far zero abuse reports/tickets on my part.
I'm so ashamed. What? Have I got crap for brains in that tinker toy skull of mine?
Ticket!

I actually feel that the rule requiring you to make moves in all of your games prior to going on vacation should be removed for non-premium members. I can only imagine the frustration of a player with innumerable ongoing games with highly active opponents, some of whom may have pre-moves set up, trying fruitlessly to clear out all of their games just so that they can turn on their vacation.
In place of this, I'd support an inability to go on vacation a second time for any game in which it was your move on the previous vacation, and in which you still have not made a move, including when initiated by auto-timeout-protection.
I can not think of a single reason this should be permitted. I think this would level the field for premium and non-premium members, and eliminate any possibility of the kind of abuse (well, vacation abuse anyway) being discussed here.

I wondered how it was possible for people who play hundreds of games simultaneously to ever go on vacation-- you'd think every time they finished getting through their list making moves they'd find that they'd already gotten a bunch of responses and still had a lot more moves they'd have to make . . . it could take a lot of time before you ever caught up!
Me as well.

My canary is RainbowRising. He lets forth intemperately now and again ("X is literally a piece of sh*t") and he remains and contributes.
I must be safe despite my "forum stylings" which are tame in comparison.
Even 'geek should be safe, despite calling someone a "dork" in the cheating group 2 months ago. Yes that's an attack and it'd been up and uncensored every day of those two months, but the site has and will survive just fine despite that.
I don't think he's all that worried about personal attacks per se or he would have banned himself or removed his "dork" comment, just very thin skinned when the words are aimed at him.
BTW, in my two years here I've been called some terrible names. I wouldn't dream of having them edited out, even if my widdle feelings were hurt. So far zero abuse reports/tickets on my part.
I'm so ashamed. What? Have I got crap for brains in that tinker toy skull of mine?
Ticket!
I don't know anything about your brains, but isn't your post somehow ill placed? At least it does not help much to solve the question we're discussing.

It comments on other subjects in the thread, does it not? And threads wander at times. It's just the way it goes in these forums.

In place of this, I'd support an inability to go on vacation a second time for any game in which it was your move on the previous vacation, and in which you still have not made a move, including when initiated by auto-timeout-protection.
I can not think of a single reason this should be permitted. I think this would level the field for premium and non-premium members, and eliminate any possibility of the kind of abuse (well, vacation abuse anyway) being discussed here.
Yeah, that's an idea....or
- Limit the number of times (not the length) a player can take vacation during a certain period (twice a week?)
- Measure vacation only in full days, not hours, minutes, seconds. Every time vacation kicks in, one day comes off. Culprits will quickly use up their allocation.

BTW, in my two years here I've been called some terrible names. I wouldn't dream of having them edited out, even if my widdle feelings were hurt.
The minds of you four-legged types never stray far from widdling . . . damn neighbor dog widdles all over my lawn . . .

I like the idea of measuring vacation in an integer number of days, the minimum amount being one day. I think it would have a limited impact, however. The abusers could limit themselves to moving once per day. As a result they would vacation at the same rate (1 day per day).
I've seen a guy go on vacation 3 times in a few hours : )
That's the same as #2.
Actually, it isn't. Auto-protection kicks in when you are about to lose on time without your action. I'm talking about a paying member changing the status themselves.
The only difference is the mechanism that turns the vacation time on (i.e. automated versus manual) -- the underlying issue is something that's common to both of them -- the fact that you're not required to make your moves prior to starting your vacation however you might initiate it.
Very sorry TheGrobe, but I don't understand. I am ONLY talking about the vacation time I will turn on manually (when needed). In THAT case I've understood that you cannot do it unless you've made all the moves in the ongoing games - has this been changed?