What is wrong with the formatting on Chess.com?
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mic15counterstrategy wrote:
It all fucking sucks, they just want to steal money of all us members, now they even made the basic things of chess.com for premium only, how poor is that? the world is all about money and if we do nothing, nothing will change. I guess that they will even close your account soon and you only can open it if you have premium! they dont care about us normal members, if its true and they made it only for premium, then open your eyes and leave this site!
What basic things have they made for Premium Members only?
Checking your game history?
Jul 31, 2014
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Wait a few days before jumping to that conclusion, okay? I seriously doubt they would deliberately make this a premium feature. Free members should be able to look at and review their games definitely.
Scottrf wrote:
Checking your game history?
Was this a response to me?
If so, I think it has always been like that, not something new.
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mic15counterstrategy wrote:
They made the "about me" and "games" part of profile pages only for premium, thats what i mean with they starting to make even the basics for premium only. and this is just the beginning. open your eyes they do this only for money. And its already clear: all premium members have it, and we normal members dont!
How do you know this? Did you read an official announcement or recieve a message from Chess.com?
mic15counterstrategy wrote:
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Um... there'a a good chance that threads like this one are visited frequently by the staff. Just sayin'.
macer75 wrote:
mic15counterstrategy wrote:
we are fucked in our ass
Um... there'a a good chance that threads like this one are visited frequently by the staff. Just sayin'.
You think they will want to join in the festivities?
SkyMarshal wrote:
I look at last games from people to detect cheaters easily. If I cannot see their last games, I really hope they have finally found a way to know when exactly a member is using engine, because I can help no more.
What's your method? I look at peoples games and have no idea how I could do this.
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Cute idea on your profile image. Even if you don't leave, I think you should keep it.
kleelof wrote:
SkyMarshal wrote:
I look at last games from people to detect cheaters easily. If I cannot see their last games, I really hope they have finally found a way to know when exactly a member is using engine, because I can help no more.
What's your method? I look at peoples games and have no idea how I could do this.
One thing you can do is just put some of their finished games (as long as you don't do this to any ongoing games it won't be cheating) through engine analysis, if you have one of those. It definitely isn't possible to make a flawless conclusion on whether the person has been cheating or not, but it can at least be used as a tool to help in the final assessment of whether you should get in touch with staff about it or not, so they can make further investigations.
SkyMarshal wrote:
kleelof wrote:
SkyMarshal wrote:
I look at last games from people to detect cheaters easily. If I cannot see their last games, I really hope they have finally found a way to know when exactly a member is using engine, because I can help no more.
What's your method? I look at peoples games and have no idea how I could do this.
If they play like an engine, you can go on an analize the game, and also compare ratings "live" and "online". In the tournament I am currently playing there are 2 banned members. Guess what. They are in my group and I detected them.
I see. How do you weed out false positives?
Seems like a lot of tedious work for little gain. Why not just play and forget about the occassional cheater?
kleelof wrote:
Seems like a lot of tedious work for little gain. Why not just play and forget about the occassional cheater?
Eh, it's not really something you would do regularly. I've played quite a bit of games and only once have I actually used this method. Usually, it's worth at least considering it when there are other factors suggesting that the player may be cheating. In my case this person had had an enormous rating boost, and a consistent winning streak in a very short span of time, and to boot they were blitzing out their moves. I figured I'd just take a quick look, and not long afterwards he was hit by the banhammer.
Basically, it's definitely not something you'd do regularly, but it's a nice option to have available for when the moments arise.
A false positive is when you test for something, and the result is positive when, in fact, it is not positive.
The method you originally described, and I know you have since elaborated on it, would have a lot of false positives. Meaining that your 'test' says they are cheating, when, in fact, they aren't.
Going back to the main topic, does anyone have any idea if the staff members check by these forums on their own, or not? I wonder if we should try sending a customer support ticket, or if it will just be redundant seeing as we're already talking about it here. Also, if we were to, it would probably be a bit unecessary to have more than one person sending a ticket, so they don't get overloaded with essentially the same message. Then again, I guess it would show the issue is quite wide-spread, which may get them to hurry up and look at it...
Haha, I really don't know! What do the rest of you think is the best course of action here, regarding that?
All joking aside. I'm sure they are not going to make those things for premium members only.
It is unfortunate Chess.com chooses to just make changes without letting people know to expect issues. Instead, they just let the users spend days speculating about what is going to happen. Just like a couple of weeks ago when the delete button disappeared from the messages area.