bad sportsmanship

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aphantomj

I love playn chess. Win or lose, good sportsmanship has always been my practice.I say this to say....If your opponent see that he/she is about to lose, so they don't move and their time run out. they should lose, right. But their skillful enough to set their pc so they can stall the game, tie up your time for an hour. then you get auto logout and they win and you lose point to. I'll admit I don't know a lot about chess or computers, but I do know about good sportsmanship behavior. I feel something should be done so this action is not aloud. I don't know what to do and this isn't the first time this has happen to me. Its my first complaint. I have a copy of the game and the person name.I'm now waitn to hear from someone/anybody?? Occurrence was a 1-31-10. 

winsammy

Resigning a game when you have clearly lost is not bad sportsmanship... it is often the sensible thing to do, so as not to waste time... however, when an opponent logout as soon as they realize they have lost, and leave you waiting for them to reconnect, or for your system to disconnect and abort the game then that is pure childishness. i would much rather have them simply resign... and even offer a rematch.

Conflagration_Planet

Email Eric, and ask why it IS allowed.

RetGuvvie98

aphantomj,

    if you would take just a minute to click on 'help and support' and find the link there to send a message to management, you will be readily and easily able to report your difficulty/complaint/issue to management in the correct forum.

   please do that there, in order to get effective report into the correct management - staff - channel for results to correct the situation.

 

thanks.

CarpathianKnight

Resigning a game when one is clearly hopelessly losing is actually good sportsmanship, and is, in a way, a compliment, for it is saying "I know that I will lose and I do not think you will blunder and thus give me a chance, ergo, I resign, good game."

As far as gaining or losing points, no matter how a game ends, whether with checkmate, resignation, or one party abandoning the game, the point gain/loss will be exactly the same, the only exception being if it is in the first move or two of a game.....ratings do not change then, I do believe, as the game is considered too short to affect ratings.

lemoj

I'm much more annoyed by people who, when they win, make snarky comments on the chat. 

Once someone told me: "How did you get your rating?" True, I had played really poorly. But how mean is that? I replied "By not being arrogant."

rubygabbi

There was a recent thread on the topic of resignation - and I'm sure there were others previous to it.

I absolutely agree that it does not constitute poor sportsmanship; the question is how much can you improve your chess by not playing till the end.

justarooky

The second I see my opponent has control of game I resign , why waste time on a game that is over . I get irritated with players that drag games out that are over . Runnung around dragging a game out that is already decided does nobodies game any good .

ridgemonkey

I would like to see Chess.com implement some sort of flagging system so that each person who is forced to endure some of these clowns can have it show up on their opponents page. With the potential I suppose of the admin's taking action if they get flagged enough. I'm sick of the people who abandon games when they're at a disadvantage as opposed to resigning, and make you wait for the clock to run down and cheat you out of a straightforward win. I'm also sick of the people who play time-wasting chess trying to drag out the clock so they can sneak a win on time instead of an actual win.

ZFirstKnight

I think this site disconnects some people as a trick to force them to upgrade; well, all this does is give this site a bad reputation as I tell my friends in other sites, making this site one of the worst.  I've been disconnected several times, and I know it was done by their operators because I have other internet windows open and working simultaneously.

artfizz
ridgemonkey wrote:

I would like to see Chess.com implement some sort of flagging system so that each person who is forced to endure some of these clowns can have it show up on their opponents page. With the potential I suppose of the admin's taking action if they get flagged enough.

In earlier discussions on feedback/reputation:

the considered view was that schemes in which members were publicly 'blacklisted' caused as many problems as they solved.

chess.com provides controls at the individual level, allowing you to block members that you don't want to play against.

I'm sick of the people who abandon games when they're at a disadvantage as opposed to resigning, and make you wait for the clock to run down and cheat you out of a straightforward win.

Stalling is certainly an unattractive trait. The central issue here (presumably) is that you're prevented from playing any other live chess game whilst this one is unfinished - but in limbo?

As I understand it, disconnections do happen in live chess - outside the players' control. That makes it impossible to treat all disconnections as deliberate (and equivalent to resigning).

There have been suggestions (e.g. Who is player X? (Extended Personal Profile)It's Another Rollover! (Essential Chess Types) ) about using a voluntary code where members could indicate whether they are a win-at-all-costs type of player or a resign-when-it's-clearly-hopeless player.

I'm also sick of the people who play time-wasting chess trying to drag out the clock so they can sneak a win on time instead of an actual win.

In timed games, management of time is as crucial as management of material and position. Under the laws of chess, wins are awarded on one of three equally valid grounds: checkmate, resignation or exceeding time limits.


Captainbob767
ZFirstKnight wrote:

I think this site disconnects some people as a trick to force them to upgrade; well, all this does is give this site a bad reputation as I tell my friends in other sites, making this site one of the worst.  I've been disconnected several times, and I know it was done by their operators because I have other internet windows open and working simultaneously.


You are joking aren't you? If not, is sounds like just a touch of runaway paranoia on your part.......   Wink

Loomis
lemoj wrote:

I'm much more annoyed by people who, when they win, make snarky comments on the chat. 

Once someone told me: "How did you get your rating?" True, I had played really poorly. But how mean is that? I replied "By not being arrogant."


This seems inescapable on the internet. I had a similar experience, except that it was after I had just beaten someone several games. He started saying "your rating is inflated" and "who padded you".

Another person used an acronym I was unfamiliar with, "fucc u". I tried to look it up, but I guess it isn't common enough. I don't think I can guess it.

One time someone said "thx" to me so I said "wcm" back and they asked me what it meant, so I guess these little net lingo words aren't always easy to understand.

Benjun93

losing in a game somehow makes me uncomfortable, especially, when you know that you are winning, then by "blunder" you lost. instead of arguing...what i do... i look for other opponent...by chance, i could have a good game. but it is more irritating when you know that your winning in a game and your opponent doesn't want to resign! instead they leave you hanging or letting their time to runs out. worst,like the one ALPHANTOMJ was complaining about. i lose many times already...its part of a game and i'm having fun. i never dream to be a grandmaster someday. if you do, this site must be your stepping stone only, when you're really good enough... start playing in a tournament for you to be known. i love this CHESS.COM because... i love playing chess! for me playing chess...is having fun! i do hope that people around here will feel the same way too... enjoy the game my friend!

leightonnicholls

This has happened once before, but I don't lose but I was annoyed waiting for 60 minutes for him to time out. Something needs to be done about it.

Loomis

Did I say I flamed anyone back? The only thing I mentioned saying back to anyone in my post was "wcm" in response to "thx". I thought I was saying "you're welcome" in response to "thanks" -- if I got that wrong then I suggest all these acronyms and short hand really need to be eliminated.

BigHickory

Every player has the right to resign a lost game.  It has long been this way in chess.  Some players consider it to be impolite NOT to resign a hopelessly lost game.   Perhaps books teaching beginners the moves should teach chess etiquette too. 

Regarding abandoned and disconnected games, there is a setting on your profile where you can specify whether or not you want a win recorded when the other player abandons the game.

ManoWar1934

I've played several 3-day games recently where my opponent did not resign but insisted on playing the position down to checkmate, adding a few weeks to the game. No problem--it was a learning experience for both of us, and the victory was sweeter for being delayed! There's always a chance for a mouse slip (and one of those darned things cost me a win last month!)...

CPawn
ZFirstKnight wrote:

I think this site disconnects some people as a trick to force them to upgrade; well, all this does is give this site a bad reputation as I tell my friends in other sites, making this site one of the worst.  I've been disconnected several times, and I know it was done by their operators because I have other internet windows open and working simultaneously.


 I think unless you have proof, you sholdnt be attacking people that pour there heart and soul, and time into this website.

Loomis

Examples are almost limitless. I just played a 3|0 game where my opponent won on time and he immediately said ok "hahahahahahahah". Um, I guess.

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