chess.com ratings are deflated against USCF

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RonaldJosephCote

      I agree, and I said why in post 693; then the whole thread got sidetracked, and I apologize for that.

nameeno

No, the USCF ratings are deflated compared to Chess.com blitz.  You just dont know since you can't be bothered getting off your butts and actually playing OTB.

If you wanna waste all day playing blitz video games that's fine by me, but don't then try to act like you know what you're talking about.

RonaldJosephCote

      A lot of people on this thread, and this site, know what the're talking about. Its the trools were tying to get rid of.

nameno1had

To anyone reaeding this thread....            

"nameeno "  is an imposter who has been reported for impersonating me.

I am guessing that one of my adversaries here decided the best way to get rid of me, so they can have an easier time of conjuring up cheating schemes and being to deceive everyone, would be to frame me for multiple accounts and other trollish crap...anyone who really knows me, knows I don't come to forums contradicting my earlier posts with another account and that I think the notion of a strict deflation/ inflation rate for any set of ratings is false, due to a few factors like, glicko vs elo, so they are therefore basically incalculable...            

konhidras
nameno1had wrote:

To anyone reaeding this thread....            

"nameeno "  is an imposter who has been reported for impersonating me.

I am guessing that one of my adversaries here decided the best way to get rid of me, so they can have an easier time of conjuring up cheating schemes and being to deceive everyone, would be to frame me for multiple accounts and other trollish crap...anyone who really knows me, knows I don't come to forums contradicting my earlier posts with another account and that I think the notion of a strict deflation/ inflation rate for any set of ratings is false, due to a few factors like, glicko vs elo, so they are therefore basically incalculable...            

Dude what happened to your rating? You used to be an 1850 here. WHat happened? Got tired huh?

nameno1had

I have never been over 1617 in correspondence chess...

bigpoison
nameno1had wrote:
tubebender wrote:
nameno1had wrote:
TacticallSymphony wrote:

I authored the ICC thread.  It's not my fault you low rated players can't comprehend statistical correlation peformed by a Ph.D.

Now go run along and play blitz and leave us grow ups alone.

/thread

I am still trying to figure out how I got lumped with the lower rated moronic blitz playing crowd ?

I play on line correspondence games almost exclusively...

I hear you on that although I do the USCF postal by email. What gets me are these folks who have very high blitz and/or bullet ratings and think that they could easily kick ass in a regular OTB G/100 event and they don`t even have a USCF rating let alone be a member of the USCF. I think that if you do have some sort of an OTB rating regardless of what country you are from it should be mandatory that it be put on your profile. And that should also include any correspondence organization`s rating that one might have.

You said a mouthful. I get sick of trolls here, who probably cheat, who also have no OTB credentials, or who could be lying about them, always criticizing other members here, for various reasons. I like your ideas but, I think it should go one step further. If you claim a rating from a chess sanctioning body, they should be required to verify the identification. I also think all chess.com members should have show a government ID from their country where applicable and a nominal fee charged to everyone to cover the costs. In effect, it would give a greater incentive to not cheat, make it harder to cheat without getting caught and provide chess.com with a way to not ban IP addresses, while still being to better stop the revolving door that banned players return through.

Dude, you need to chill.  I can kinda' understand where costelus and polar bear are coming from, by why you care so much about online chess cheating is beyond me.

Polar Bear's (the dude you lifted these ideas from) draconian reforms are ridiculous and won't even achieve their aims were they implemented.

bigpoison

In 'noone's case, your insinuation is absurd.

RonaldJosephCote

    Nameno 1;  I couldn't agree with you more. I'm sure Erik, and the IT staff is trying to do that as we speak. I'd LOVE locked IP addresses. Now you know why I look around for some of the trools, and I'll take my fair share of abuse doing so.

amartalon
RonaldJosephCote wrote:

    I'd LOVE locked IP addresses.

Completely pointless, people can just use proxies.  Also unfair to anyone who uses the same IP address.

amartalon
Tactical_Symphony wrote:

Yeah especially when they recklessly block public IP addresses for entire buildings, universities, small countries (this really happens).

Wow I hadn't even thought of that.  That's definately a good reason not to block IPs willy nilly.

RonaldJosephCote

     Well it doesn't happen to paying and non-paying members who abide by the rule!

macer75
RonaldJosephCote wrote:

     Well it doesn't happen to paying and non-paying members who abide by the rule!

Unless they just happen to use the same public network as somebody who got himself IP-banned.

BadHabitZZZ
Tactical_Symphony wrote:

I think there is something to be said for the theory about the people who are most vocal against cheating ...

Shakespeare, "Me thinks the Lady doeth protest too much."

nameno1had
bigpoison wrote:
nameno1had wrote:
tubebender wrote:
nameno1had wrote:
TacticallSymphony wrote:

I authored the ICC thread.  It's not my fault you low rated players can't comprehend statistical correlation peformed by a Ph.D.

Now go run along and play blitz and leave us grow ups alone.

/thread

I am still trying to figure out how I got lumped with the lower rated moronic blitz playing crowd ?

I play on line correspondence games almost exclusively...

I hear you on that although I do the USCF postal by email. What gets me are these folks who have very high blitz and/or bullet ratings and think that they could easily kick ass in a regular OTB G/100 event and they don`t even have a USCF rating let alone be a member of the USCF. I think that if you do have some sort of an OTB rating regardless of what country you are from it should be mandatory that it be put on your profile. And that should also include any correspondence organization`s rating that one might have.

You said a mouthful. I get sick of trolls here, who probably cheat, who also have no OTB credentials, or who could be lying about them, always criticizing other members here, for various reasons. I like your ideas but, I think it should go one step further. If you claim a rating from a chess sanctioning body, they should be required to verify the identification. I also think all chess.com members should have show a government ID from their country where applicable and a nominal fee charged to everyone to cover the costs. In effect, it would give a greater incentive to not cheat, make it harder to cheat without getting caught and provide chess.com with a way to not ban IP addresses, while still being to better stop the revolving door that banned players return through.

Dude, you need to chill.  I can kinda' understand where costelus and polar bear are coming from, by why you care so much about online chess cheating is beyond me.

Polar Bear's (the dude you lifted these ideas from) draconian reforms are ridiculous and won't even achieve their aims were they implemented.

I can't help it some people have a head start. That doesn't nullify my ability to put 2 and 2 together and still come up with 4. I didn't read Polar Bear's material. I learned more from LPS than anyone, if I am giving anyone any credit, but I still have figured out most of what I know on my own...

Simply deciding the impact of things without an actual try can be possible, but we aren't talking about tic tac toe...

I was already chilled btw....left rather cold actually is probably better stated...

nameno1had
tubebender wrote:
nameno1had wrote:

To anyone reaeding this thread....            

"nameeno "  is an imposter who has been reported for impersonating me.

I am guessing that one of my adversaries here decided the best way to get rid of me, so they can have an easier time of conjuring up cheating schemes and being to deceive everyone, would be to frame me for multiple accounts and other trollish crap...anyone who really knows me, knows I don't come to forums contradicting my earlier posts with another account and that I think the notion of a strict deflation/ inflation rate for any set of ratings is false, due to a few factors like, glicko vs elo, so they are therefore basically incalculable...            

Now that we know what he looks like, things just became easier to take care of just in case we run into him. I`m originally from Ohio and if I ever see him in a Chess setting, I will tell him that he is not welcome and will refuse to "push wood" with him unless he issues a public apology to you. I think we should "boycott" him totally.

In case you weren't aware of it, the individual who made the fake account pretending to be me, took my own picture from the page where my blogs are and used it for the profile picture. So if you do see me sitting across from you at a chess site, there is no need for me to apologize or show any ID...

AdamRinkleff
ipcress12 wrote:


FWIW, Adam R.'s claim matches my gut sense that chess.com ratings are 200-300 points deflated compared to USCF. In fact that was exactly the spread I mentioned to an old friend from my high school team the other day in email.

Yah, at least there are a few sensible people here. Some other guy with a PhD ran his own analysis and came to the same conclusion, but this thread just goes on and on with morons saying things like "apples and oranges", as if it's not possible to compare apples with oranges.

People are dumb, and they just don't know it. It's not so much an intelligence thing, as a thought process disorder. It seems a lot of otherwise intelligent people have this inability to consider something which they've already deemed implausible. You'll mention an idea to them, and they'll say, "That won't work!" and then it doesn't matter what you say because they've already decided. I'm guessing on the Meyers-Briggs psychological temperament scale those people are the judgmental Js. They are very OCD about what you can and can't do. "You can't compare two different ratings systems, you just can't!" *yawn*

Some of these people also lack reading comprehension skills, so they think they know what we are talking about, but they actually don't understand the subject. So their "arguments" are just meaningless, having nothing to do with the actual topic. For example, the idiots who keep talking about "online chess" and still haven't noticed that we are talking about "blitz" ratings.

AdamRinkleff
ipcress12 wrote:

It's pretty basic -- even obvious I would say.

; )

AdamRinkleff
ipcress12 wrote:

Please explain...

No. I don't have time for the ABC version.

Good day.

Yah, that's another problem with these people. I call them "information trolls". They'll ask you to explain things, and want more and more detail, and ultimately... they are just wasting my time. I'm not getting paid to teach them! Sometimes, when people don't understand something, they should just stfu and let the adults talk. If you don't agree with what someone posted in a forum, why would you feel this obsessive compulsion to constantly argue? Just go away, get a life!

AdamRinkleff
RonaldJosephCote wrote:

       I was born in 1956. You don't know your history. The Tet offensive was in 1972.

Nah, Tet was in 68.