gg is arrogance

"If the revolution is going to succeed, we must become better spellers." - unknown

I always say "Thank you for the game"

gg is something you say on mmorpgs and game simulators. I hold chess to a higher standard.

"You must not, when you have gained a victory, use any triumphing or insulting expressions, nor show too much of the pleasure you feel, but endeavour to console your adversary, and make him less dissatisfied with himself by every kind and civil expression that may be used with truth, such as, you understand the game better than I, but you are a little inattentive, or, you play too fast, or, you had the best of the game, but something happened to divert your thoughts and that turned it in my favour." - Ben (The Pawn Star) Franklin

For some reason, Ben didn't specifically address gg. I'm looking for a letter combination to use that means absolutely nothing.

 ben franklin said this?.. he did say many great things however...

 aah good aul irish coffee..

He also said something puzzling in the Morals of Chess:

"Snatch not eagerly at every advantage offered by his unskilfulness or inattention; but point out to him kindly, that by such a move he places or leaves a piece in danger and unsupported; that by another he will put his king in a perilous situation, etc."

http://www.goddesschess.com/chesstories/franklin.html

Along these lines: When I was taught chess from my mother, one of the rules I learned was that you should always say "check" when checking the opponent's king. And another rule was that you should say "guard your queen" when threatening the opponent's queen.

Thinking back about it now, I'm not sure if I ever got a chance to do a knight fork where I could say "check, oh and guard your queen too".

My Dad taught me to say "en garde." From what I've read, even that can be interpreted as an insult.

It'll get you blocked, for sure.

I was always taught to say "check" as well, only to learn now that its improper to say it (or anything else for that matter) in OTB tournaments .   Never heard about the guard your Q phrase though.

Musing over what can get you blocked is "hypocritic". Sadly, My-Fly_ will now be invited to the "Blocked group" and suffer there with rational beings until I see fit. So it is written. So I can't read.

Heh, and naturally, none of the above is your fault.  You didn't even type anything; the words just appeared as a result of the righteous indignation of the universe against my "hypocriticism".

 omg i know right. i only learned when i came back to chess a year ago that it was silly and unnecessy. leads me on to think what it would be like if the standard on checkmating an opponant was 'boom, headshot'...

 eggs actly

Once, when I was a C player, I heard in a tournament a guy (an A player) call out an audible: "Mate in 5".

I remember being impressed.

Note: the one exception to the don't talk rule is the draw offer.

You know, because there's all the threads too about when it's ok to offer a draw, when you shouldn't, how often is too often, and all that.

Wow... I suppose that wishing the player luck is also bad taste.  And shaking hands at an OTB tourney is an attempt at physical intimidation.  Must suck to have such thin skin...

I did have someone look at me a little funny when I said 'good luck' in an OTB game.

Meh

I've already been blocked from any discussion on the relationship between chess and IQ. I may have suggested it was dumb. Oh well.

As much as I respect Ben Franklin for trying to make the national bird a Turkey (if that's true), those quotes don't seem very polite to me. May be values dissonance.

I see the good intentions behind saying that the opponent might not have played up to their best at that particular time. I guess I can let that one slide; but the other one about "poiting out how they endanger their own pieces" seems much more consescending than a simple "gg". It's basically saying that you know more about the game, since you're... y'know, teaching, in a way. I'll give constructive criticism at the end of a game if I think it might be helpful, but very, very rarely. And mostly with people I know IRL. I usually don't consider myself such a good player that I can freely hand out advice.

Maybe explaining why you thought it was a good game is in order. Like one recent game where I won, and I said "Good game, very close". Because it was. He had me thinking and on my toes to the very end, and I enjoyed it. He did went on to beat me in the next game, making it 2-1 in his favor.

I'm starting to think that people who take offense to a winner's "GG" are those that would mean it in an offensive way if they won and said it. People often expect of others what they expect of themselves.