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jesterville

...I do agree that it is statisically impossible that the only life in the Universe exists on "the big blue marble"...it seems obvious that the same way our home world was created, that others would be created in a similar fashion...of course developement is taking place at different rates...and time and space is relative...I believe it would take another 200 million years or so before our radio signals leave our galaxy...even the ability to "see" further will only give us the ability to see "history", and not what is taking place on those worlds currently...

...so given our timeline in developement, and technological limitations...it is clear that it is hardly likely that finding life "out there" will be the result of our doing any time soon...but maybe more likely due to the result of more advanced societies explorations...

...then we come to the real stuff...that is, if indeed life exists elsewhere (as we assume), and these beings do indeed reach Earth...first contact may not be what we see in the movies ala ET...be careful what you wish for...

Bex1p

My sentiments exactly, only i feel that we have already been reached and this is the result. I also feel that there will come a time when the anunnaki who have controlled what has happened on earth since the dawn of man will not find it necessary to continue their operations covertly. They are here, they always have been and we blindly do their bidding day after day, millenia after millenia.

oinquarki
Bex1p wrote:

My sentiments exactly, only i feel that we have already been reached and this is the result. I also feel that there will come a time when the anunnaki who have controlled what has happened on earth since the dawn of man will not find it necessary to continue their operations covertly. They are here, they always have been and we blindly do their bidding day after day, millenia after millenia.


And yet you insist that this isn't a religion.

Bex1p

I do. I worship nobody and nothing, I just believe this to be the case. Why so many blood types if we all evolved on earth? Why so many types of "human" ie. kind humans, cruel humans, merciless humans, ambitious humans, intelligent humans, ridiculous humans etc. What is so special about san grael or royal blood? why is it different? why is so much effort put in to keep it pure? and why do those of "pure blood" always rule? and what is more the bloodline of these people can usually be traced back millenia. This is the opposite of religion.

oinquarki

There are really multiple facets of religion, and by definition a religion can be anyone of these, though they are often combined;

  1. practice of certain rites and ceremonies
  2. filler material for the gaps in peoples' knowledge that they are too uneducated/lazy/unwilling to shore up with logic
  3. a system of morals

I refer to number two.

Bex1p

Then that is exactly what you are doing while you avoid the question.

Bex1p

So if somebody suggests something you have no answers for you label it religion? If 99% of people believe something then it is true, however the minority are always wrong. I see things differently.

oinquarki

Do you really think that bugs and elephants could have evolved on the same planet but humans with different personalities and blood types couldn't?

oinquarki
Bex1p wrote:

So if somebody suggests something you have no answers for you label it religion? If 99% of people believe something then it is true, however the minority are always wrong. I see things differently.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor

oinquarki
Bex1p wrote:

So if somebody suggests something you have no answers for you label it religion?


You are inventing beings with god-like characteristics and calling them aliens instead of demigods.

Bex1p

Personalities yes, blood types no, do some research into rhesus negative and see how many people you recognise with that blood group, do elephants have different blood groups? Also elephants are not busy raping the planet for somebody elses benefit, neither do they go to war with the exception of Hannibal and a few other occasions in antiquity. Neither was any other species (to my knowledge) genetically modified by the anunnaki, they were free to evolve independently and life has diversified into many different species on its own, as we did until they arrived.

oinquarki

So there's no way anybody would have different blood types, consume large amounts of natural resources, or go to war unless they were being secretly controlled by magical space-gods?

Bex1p

I invented nothing and there is nothing godly about them, to people of the stone age they were gods because they were unable to explain what they were seeing, whereas now we would say oh look its a ufo. Hybrids of the two you could therefore call demigods such as hercules, gilgamesh, noah, enoch etc if you wish but that is not the case, they were hybrids, like a mule.

jesterville
 
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So if somebody suggests something you have no answers for you label it religion? If 99% of people believe something then it is true, however the minority are always wrong. I see things differently.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor

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...at one point in time the majority of people on this planet believed the Earth to be flat, and that the Earth was the center of the Universe...they were totally wrong...the truth has nothing to do with popularity.

Bex1p

I refer to number 2. The governments of the world are well aware, which is why they continue to destroy the planet in search of resources to build their spacestations and obtain a ticket out of here. Tell me, where did kingship come from and why one man rather than another, what does his regalia and ornaments stand for? what gave the first kings the right to rule? understand this and you are a step closer to the truth. I understand most people are not ready to understand such things.

Bex1p
jesterville wrote:
 
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So if somebody suggests something you have no answers for you label it religion? If 99% of people believe something then it is true, however the minority are always wrong. I see things differently.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor

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...at one point in time the majority of people on this planet believed the Earth to be flat, and that the Earth was the center of the Universe...they were totally wrong...the truth has nothing to do with popularity.


Yes they were wrong but my point is that it was doctrine and accepted fact and woe betide anybody that said anything different. This was an example of dumbing down the population and robbing them of their curiosity and ability to think for themselves. The Romans would just throw you to the lions and ask if anyone else had an opinion.

Conquistador

You have not answered my question.  On what angle does the planet orbit the Sun on the Galactic Plane?

Bex1p

Beats me, im no astrophysicist.

oinquarki

After #279, I give up.

Bex1p

Feb 20 Nibiru between Jupiter and Mars orbits. 2.48 AU from Earth.

March 4 Nibiru breaks through ecliptic plane for earth change symptoms to increase dramatically. 2.261 AU from Earth.
March 15 Saturn, Nibiru, Earth, Sun, Mars, Jupiter and Uranus are in alignment creating gravity trench for volcano/earthquake/tidal events to escalate (first shaking of Hopi prophecy). First Conjunction. 2.1 AU from Earth.

June 27 Nibiru crosses Mars orbit. 1.789 AU from Earth.

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Aug 3 Nibiru crosses Earth orbit and Earth reaches Nibiru perigee orbit angle position. 1.489 AU from Earth.

Aug 21 Nibiru crosses Venus orbit. 1.198 AU from Earth.

Sept 11 Nibiru reaches perigee position at Mercury orbit. 0.708 AU from Earth.

Sept 19 Nibiru equidistant from Sun And Earth. 0.523 AU from Earth.

Sept 26 Nibiru passes between Sun and Earth for second alignment (second shaking of Hopi prophecy) for anticipated Geological Pole Shift Event. Second Conjunction. 0.396 AU from Earth.

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Oct 2 Nibiru at Venus orbit. 0.316 AU from Earth.

Oct 17 Nibiru at Earth orbit and nearest position. 0.232 AU from Earth @ 21.57 million miles.

Nov 14 Nibiru crosses Mars orbit. 0.46 AU from Earth.

Nov 22 Nibiru, Earth and Sun alignment for Pole Shift Reversal Event. Third conjunction 0.58 AU from Earth.

Nibiru will finally be farther from the Earth than the Sun on Feb 29, 2012 marking 163 days from Sept. 19, 2011 that Nibiru is nearer our planet than the Sun.

 

Does this help?