Bach, Beethoven, Brahms ( & Mozart ? )

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RonaldJosephCote

Snapdragon;  That new member in our geezer group----marmaladecat? or onemarathon?  He plays violin.  You should tell him about THIS thread.

Pashak1989

Arguably the best violinist in history 

 

Snapdragon

Not to take away from their accomplishments, I've never understood terms like "best violinist" or "best conductor" or "best anything". He/she may have won some prestigious award or contest or whatever, but that was momentary, probably repeated many times, but there are always plenty more like him/her in the wings. They're all "best" at other times. The violinist, pianist, singer, golfer, swimmer, chess player is "best" one day, not so good another day.

Snapdragon
RonaldJosephCote wrote:

Snapdragon;  That new member in our geezer group----marmaladecat? or onemarathon?  He plays violin.  You should tell him about THIS thread.

 

Thanks for the suggestion, Ron, but I feel a bit shy about telling other people about what they should read or join or whatever. Why don't YOU tell him? (And I think you meant marmaladecat. I don't know either person, but I think Pam told me he was a cat lover and is a musician professionally. That just makes me feel doubly shy.)

 

RonaldJosephCote

Ok,  will do.wink.png

Pashak1989
Snapdragon escribió:

Not to take away from their accomplishments, I've never understood terms like "best violinist" or "best conductor" or "best anything". He/she may have won some prestigious award or contest or whatever, but that was momentary, probably repeated many times, but there are always plenty more like him/her in the wings. They're all "best" at other times. The violinist, pianist, singer, golfer, swimmer, chess player is "best" one day, not so good another day.

 

I think in this case we can use the term "best ever", because he was absolutely perfect.

His sound, his technique, his musicality, etc.

All violinists today, from the very beginners to the ones that win the most prestigious competitions worldwide listen his recordings all the time. He is a true example of how a piece should be performed. 

 

There were other extraordinary violinists like Heifetz, Kogan, Milstein, Szeryng, among others. But Oistrakh and Heifetz are widely considered as the greatests ever. 

And personally I like Oistrakh a little bit more. 

 

It is not about winning competitions (Heifetz never won, or even competed at the most prestigious competitions in the world), it is about the fact that there is no one single recording or video where you listen to them and you say "mmm this was not good". 

They play some pieces better than others, but even the pieces that are not their "strongest" ones are still played at an amazing level. 

 

In 100 years, violinists will still be talking about Oistrakh and Heifetz. 

Kpop4Life

I play quite a bit of classic music and I sort of like Beethoven the best for right now

Snapdragon

Thank you for that post, Pashak. In principle, I see what you're saying. But to add to what you wrote, I think we have come to expect perfection from the greatest performers as far as technical mastery is concerned. But there is always interpretation. How can there be the "best" interpretation when that is so subjective? But you're quite right in naming Oistrakh and Heifetz as perhaps the best two violinists ever, but to mind come so many others that deserve similar awe when they perform. Itzak Perlman? Fritz Kreisler? Sarah Chang? Midori? Nicolo Paganini? Yehudi Menuhin? -- oh, I've just scratched the surface. What is it that marks someone, in your opinion, as "the best"?

Kpop4Life, I was a bit amused by your post. How can someone "sort of" like Beethoven?

badenwurtca

Thanks for all of these new posts.

badenwurtca

The name that we need to mention here today ( on March 25th ) is Bartok ( from 1881 ).

badenwurtca

Thanks for the post Kaynight. Sorry I'm not that good at the Klingon language   lol.  

badenwurtca

March 31st, the big day for Hayden ( in 1732 ).

Snapdragon

Oh, no! Today is March 31st? I thought it was April 1st already and changed all the calendars here. All day I was bemoaning the fact that I didn't play any April Fool's jokes on anyone. Now I have one more day to get cracking on that. Anyway, Happy Birthday, Papa Haydn!!

 

badenwurtca

Thanks for the post Snapdragon.

badenwurtca

We do happen to have a name for April 1st as well, going back to the year 1873 ( for Mr Rachmaninoff ).

TheronG12

Despite his birthday, Sergey Vasilyevich was no fool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2GKgFZ_ioQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uT_ZhhQeudY

Snapdragon
kaynight wrote:

Guy in post 442 was an atrocious landlord.

Was he? I knew nothing about that. Would you care to elucidate us?

(I'm assuming by "Guy in post 442" you meant Rachmaninoff and not badenwurtca.)

badenwurtca

Thanks for the posts. 

TheronG12
kaynight wrote:

Harken! With the onset of Spring, one hears the Black and Decker concerto, as neighbours mow their lawns.

This one made me laugh.

badenwurtca

Thanks for the new posts.