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Carolina I discovered I don't exist through observing my mind for over a decade.

I saw through the illusion. Saw that all that's real is nature. It's all one.

I looked within.
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You type a lot for somebody who does not exist for over ten yearsTom..

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No nature does. Nature does everything.
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I have trouble believing that Tom...

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Think of water running down the mountain. It's like that. Things just happen. And there's a natural explanation.
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Sure because you've been conditioned from birth to believe you exist.

Think about though how man evolved.

The decisions modern day man makes are an absolute result of it's natural development.
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I suppose things are and aren't deliberate.

I mean ultimately it all just happens but it's true that nature is aware of itself through consciousness and that produces reactions.
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Anyway tree I'm saying knowing the truth doesn't equal happiness.
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What the truth brings you is an absence of hate. To understand everything is to hate nothing.
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if you don't exist someone's imagination is going wild right now.

 

Question,  lets follow this out and say that one "being" is in fact in a state of almost no existence- everyone else is just the illusion of that person.

 

what point is chess? is it just to demonstrate to yourself that you are dumb.

 

what about scarier stuff;  what of nasty trolls- one of those really spread alot of awful pics.   does that mean "I" whoever that is- am responseable for that.

 

did "I" the hillucinating man- merely imagine violence in the world; a bloodbath in syria, the worst year in chicago for awhile,  the election of the most idiotic politician in America's country.

 

what is actually REAL?  and is there an actual entity that will look at this email- or is it that you imagination will invent responses?

 

is it possible that Everything I don't see- isn't actually real??

 

I'm lost in this point of view.

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My struggle right now is with purpose I think. Without feeling we have a purpose we naturally feel distressed I think. We feel lost.
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Hi the great I've missed you. I was just going to say love doesn't turn to hate it turns to fear.
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I haven't long but I'll read and reply to you.
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We are animals with a brain ...with self consciousness..capable of doing all the good and all the evil 

in this world..To say we don t exist is simply nonsense...

 

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Okay I'll reply..
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if all is merely an illusion.  imagine a serious and wonderful purpose.

 

I feel like that purpose is to get better at chess.  I need to embrace that feeling more often.

 

perhaps, If I am determined- I will imagine my opponents as much weaker and see lots of winning moves.  Would they be weak, If Imagined them as weak?

 

even without that POV; I'm sure it helps to adopt a positive point of view.

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The great there isn't such thing as a being. That's an imaginary concept.

Sure the sun the moon the insect the bird the reptile the mammal all exist.

All of these are inherent within nature. All belong to nature.

Nature isn't a being either.

What's truly real is cause and effect. Natural materials and natural forces.

Everything else is an illusion.

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As for responsibility. Nature is responsible for the good and the bad. The water that the child drinks and the water that drowns the child. The I is an illusion along with subjective views like good and evil.
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quite so...

but I am yet very interested in the independance of things.  suppose I am nice to my friends; and reach out those that are being harassed?

 

does that cause create an aeffect where lots of other people are nicer to me?

aren't they independant and perhaps ready to cyber bully me as well??  cyber bullying has become the topic of the house and a source of anxiety.

 

.... so perhaps it is better to withdraw into the annonymity of the net.   perhaps that cause would allow a better effect.

 

its all hard to understand.   talking here both causes sharing and bullying.  its a dilemma.  I like talking to people about chess all around the world but I really can't make me or my family a huge target for cyber abuse.

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Now your second post is on the mark. I thought the truth would bring me joy.

Truth doesn't bring joy. The hate leaves.

Happiness is a different beast and I don't know how its achieved but you're right it's not about knowing the truth.