Bible is ****
Sort:
x-7602588195
Oct 10, 2023
0
#121
You can’t prove anything through just logic, for example, you couldn’t prove NYC to me without appealing to authority, showing me pictures, or taking me there
0
#122
therealtomfitz wrote:
Honestly here is what undermines atheism and nihlism, if the world is meaningless, we would never come to realize that it is meaningless, just as someone who is blind cannot see that he is in a dark room, or as a fish does not feel wet
You first asserted that if the universe were meaningless, we would never come to realise it is meaningless. Then you gave a completely unrelated example to justify your assertion
how would this go if it was an irl fight
0
#125
I noticed #160 on my way out of the forums. I have never claimed that you can prove things using logic, nor does it have any relevance to the topic at hand. For the sake of argument, mathematically, logic can prove things.
0
#128
I have a dare, read C.S. Lewis mere Christianity, and try to disprove his points
0
#129
therealtomfitz wrote:
161 actually it is not completely unrelated when you think about it
I thinked and It doesn't make sense . I would be grateful if you could illustrate how they are related.
0
#130
I have a dare, read "God delusion by Richard Dawkins " and try to disprove his points
0
#132
Think about it, if you are meaningless, then, in order to know that you are meaningless you need to understand meaning, which you can’t in a meaningless universe
170 not saving us from him, from the rightful judgement he would have given us for our actions
0
#134
170 that is because of justice, we became his enemies, it was a price that HAD to be paid, but being merciful he paid it for us, which makes sense when you think about it, just as someone will help someone else pay a debt
0
#136
therealtomfitz wrote:
Think about it, if you are meaningless, then, in order to know that you are meaningless you need to understand meaning, which you can’t in a meaningless universe
Correct, To label the universe meaningless we need to understand meaning, which we shouldn't be able to do in a meaningless universe.
But, by meaningless universe we mean the universe as a whole doesn't have a purpose, we don't mean that a concept like "meaning" can't exist in the universe.
0
#137
therealtomfitz wrote:
170 that is because of justice, we became his enemies, it was a price that HAD to be paid, but being merciful he paid it for us, which makes sense when you think about it, just as someone will help someone else pay a debt
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?
Epicurus
0
#138
He wanted to give free will, without free will life would be very boring, we could not choose evil, but we also could not choose love.
0
#139
Amigo, according to my church, my God is able to prevent evil, but wanted to give us a choice.