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Stating opinion as fact is an act of ignorance not confidence. It shows maturity if you are able to differentiate between the two. Considering how you are not able to you are no better than @TIGERSintheSUN
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#414 yeah, sure. What’s you think about the end. Was it a bit much. I thought it was rather fitting for the mood but perhaps a bit too threatening, no?
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1AncientConcavenator wrote:
#409 also that claim is dumb. Opinion isn’t fact bro they are two different things.

now you are shown to be the moron you are.

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#417 aww the child is getting flustered. He’s using big grown up words to mask the fact that he cannot have a civil conversation.
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Cats literally do all the same. Also, is this a concession that cat's fight better? ( you haven't countered my previous counter)

No, that conversation already ended.

We already established dogs fight better.

Dogs do not get headlines for doing something as routine as scratching 3 measly coyotes. Only cats get headlines for that. Because cats can almost never do that, and survive.

We have not established that, though. While Max's 3 coyotes will likely never return, the three that Casper chased off, despite the 8 dead, have an equal, if not higher, chance of attacking again. I have thouroughly explained this below.

Max: an untrained housecat, weighing perhaps 10-15 pounds, successfully defended himself against three coyotes, easily 6-7 times his weight. He emerged completely unscathed. This shows to an extraordinary level of agility, tactical prowess, and self-preservation.

Now, let's look at Casper: a massive, purpose-bred Livestock Guardian Dog, designed specifically to confront coyotes. Despite his immense size and specialized training, he fought eleven coyotes that were, at most, 2-3 times his weight. Casper nearly died in the process. While seemingly impressive, the fact that a dog bred for this exact purpose sustained life-threatening injuries against proportionally smaller foes, while an untrained housecat emerged unscathed against significantly larger ones, strongly favors Max's defensive efficiency.

Furthermore, the idea that dogs routinely fight multiple coyotes is simply inaccurate. A dog fighting 3 coyotes does make headlines; the vast majority of dogs never confront even one coyote in their lifetime. Such encounters are far from routine for any domestic animal.

Finally, let's address the point of long-term threat neutralization. You argued that three injured coyotes fought by the cat could return. However, coyotes rarely retreat unless very scared or injured. In Max's case, the coyotes were sufficiently deterred by an aggressive, agile housecat and there was no valuable hunting 'prize' in his territory to lure them back. They were thoroughly intimidated and are highly unlikely to return.

In Casper's scenario, while he did kill eight coyotes, three sustained only minor injuries. Here, the incentive for return is significant: a valuable flock of sheep. Minorly injured coyotes, driven by hunger and the proximity of a food source, have a high likelihood of regrouping and returning with the same, if not more, aggression. Had Casper been able to fight with the same defensive effectiveness as Max, inflicting serious injuries on all the coyotes rather than just killing some, the threat to the flock would have been more definitively neutralized. The survival of those three moderately injured coyotes means the flock remains in peril, potentially facing an even more coordinated attack.

You may ask: Why didn't Max seriously injure all the coyotes in his case? Well, the coyotes had no prize that they were out for, no flock of sheep to devour. So, they were proportionally less motivated, and retreated easily, before they could receive such injuries. Even so, they will likely never return.

In essence, Max's defense resulted in no harm to himself and a complete deterrence of the threat, despite a massive size disadvantage. Casper's defense, while brave and impactful in numbers, came at a near-fatal cost to himself and left a very real threat to the animals he was guarding. When evaluating who 'defended better,' the uninjured, untrained cat who completely repelled a proportionally larger threat without a 'prize' to defend, ultimately demonstrated superior and more effective defensive capabilities.

As a conclusion, Max fought the coyotes so that they would never return. Casper, while he killed eight, did not defend the flock from future attacks, as those three coyotes have a very high likelihood of return. Because they have incentive: the flock of sheep, and their injured guard. Had Casper fought like a cat and injured all coyotes significantly, while sustaining little injuries of his own, the coyotes could not have come back. So eight killed means nothing for future safety. Only 11 very injured has any implications.

But there are now 8 coyotes, with zero chance of return.

And if those remaining 3 are foolish enough to make the same mistake twice, 3 will be even easier to deal with than 11.

Hell, even a scrawny cat might survive against only 3 coyotes, if its lucky.

What, you think there are only 11 coyotes in existence in the entire area? Heck no. There are hundreds of coyotes in that area. Those three coyotes will just regroup and come back with more coyotes! Also, what good is a severely debilitated guard dog against some coyotes? If the so-called "best-of-the-best" in coyote-fighting dogs can barely survive against coyotes 2-3 times his weight, how can he survive against more coyotes? Maybe double? Quick answer: He can't.

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cats forever x

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Cat is better with rice.
Grilled dog with some nice bbq sauce and coleslaw is real good though
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cats r better cuz they wont do their bussiness everywhere like a dog, they have their own toilet

very demure, very mindful

(honestly i love both but i say cats)

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1AncientConcavenator wrote:
#409 heh, ohh our humanity. Have we lost our sight of our humanity. Before controversial topics were opportunities to discuss your point of view and be heard. Nowadays your opinion is hate speech, no it’s shunned upon by society.
Little five year old brats such as yourself are too immature to realize that you’ve fallen into society’s toxic hands so you make ridiculous comments of nothing.
I kept my response short and sweet because I didn’t want to get involved. Why would I. After all little kids such as yourself took such an innocent and fun discussion to the same level as political debate.
But did you think that it only said I like dogs because I wasn’t invested enough to actually participate. No, no you did not.
And now you will suffer. Suffer in the same way my mother did. Slow, painful, with a solution and cure to her illness right in front of her. Unfortunately, she was too simple minded too poor in her spirit to recognize it. This will be the end of your toxic plague.

"...such an innocent and fun discussion to the same level as a political debate..."

Are you saying political debates are boring and sinful? (well, I guess some are getting a bit sinful in nature, but so long as you don't unreasonably defame your opponent, they are morally fine)

I think political debates are very fun, and most of them are pretty innocent.

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#430 YES! I love grilled cat with a pinch of rice on the side. However, I prefer my dogs fried and crunchy. BBQ sauce sounds like such an awesome combo. I gotta try it out. 😁
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#432 most times political debate is very muchly so just two close minded people ranting about their belief with them both not listening to each other. Something like this is supposed to be fun and people here have taken this topic too seriously.

I was just having a little fun with this little rant. So it might would a tad bit dramatic lol
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Might sound a tad bit dramatic. (Keyboard issues)
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1AncientConcavenator wrote:
#432 most times political debate is very muchly so just two close minded people ranting about their belief with them both not listening to each other. Something like this is supposed to be fun and people here have taken this topic too seriously.
I was just having a little fun with this little rant. So it might would a tad bit dramatic lol

Ahhhh. I see.

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