Coins, Metal Detecting, and Treasure in General - Chess Forums - Page 4

MzJavert · 2014-03-10T07:09:41-07:00

Since I've figured out we've got a few coin collectors here. It's time we have our own thread. Not just limited to coins and coin roll hunting, but to Metal Detecting and other Treasure finding activities. I enjoy coin roll hunting Cents and Nickels. This weekend I met with Mom and

ivandh

Mar 15, 2014

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netzach a écrit :

Due to the increasing value of copper worldwide some low-denomination UK coins are almost approaching a scrap-metal value that is greater than their face currency value.

Better to take your surplus coins to a metal-dealer rather than the bank.

We already have that problem, pennies cost more to make than their face value, even though they're mostly zinc.

Cents prior to 1981 (or is it 83?) contain more copper, analogous to old coins that used to have actual silver in them.

EP72

Mar 15, 2014

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ivandh,

Your analogy is correct. There has been a change in the metals used to create American cents...and this has occurred during the minting process within a particular year. So, for instance, a 1982 Lincoln cent can be found with two different compositions.

Here is a breakdown of the Lincoln Cent, Memorial Reverse, for those who may have an interest.

1959 - 1962: weight 3.11 grams, composition .950 copper, .050 tin & zinc

1962 - 1982: weight 3.11 grams, composition .950 copper, .050 zinc

1982 - present: weight 2.5 grams, core composition .992 zinc, .008 copper, with a plating of pure copper...total content .975 zinc, .025 copper

Tree_House_Chess

Mar 15, 2014

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EP72 wrote:

ivandh,

Your analogy is correct. There has been a change in the metals used to create American cents...and this has occurred during the minting process within a particular year. So, for instance, a 1982 Lincoln cent can be found with two different compositions.

Here is a breakdown of the Lincoln Cent, Memorial Reverse, for those who may have an interest.

1959 - 1962: weight 3.11 grams, composition .950 copper, .050 tin & zinc

1962 - 1982: weight 3.11 grams, composition .950 copper, .050 zinc

1982 - present: weight 2.5 grams, core composition .992 zinc, .008 copper, with a plating of pure copper...total content .975 zinc, .025 copper

This is correct. But not only that, Mr. Lincoln's profile lost weight too in 1983 lol. Compare a pre- 1983 Lincoln cent with the profile of..say... a 2010. The pre 1983 has more depth vs the post 1983 (more flat).

Tree_House_Chess

Mar 15, 2014

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uwinagain wrote:

Hi EP72,

The reverse of the Roman denarius has the image of the Mars, though a little weakly struck. I will have to photograph this coin again anyway and will post up a picture of the reverse when I do.

The fragment of coin in the box is a cut quarter penny (yes they would literally cut money to divide it) of King John 1189 - 1216.

He was a greedy king and very unpopular with his punitive taxes and is deemed Englands worst king. He died of over-eating hiding from his enemys at the end.

He was forced to sign the Magna Carta, restoring rights to the people.

Here is the reverse of the Elizabeth I sixpence, its quite a big coin really at 25mm diameter.

Thanks for your interest, I have lots of interesting finds I can share pictures of so will follow this topic!

Great background history to these coins. Very interesting. I always told my students that coins are the worlds cheapest "Time Machines" lol.

EP72

Mar 15, 2014

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uwinagain, Thank you for posting an image of the reverse of the Elizabeth I sixpence...and for adding some historical perspective to this thread. It is greatly appreciated. My personal experience with coin collecting has been, to this point, quite myopic and focused primarily on American coins. I am grateful to you for helping me to expand my horizons. Best regards, Eric

kayak21

Mar 15, 2014

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#66

uwinagain has got a fantastic collection of old coins, some are about 2,000 years old.

uwinagain

Mar 16, 2014

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kayak21 wrote:

uwinagain has got a fantastic collection of old coins, some are about 2,000 years old.

Thanks Kayak, actually the Trajan Denarius is my oldest coin but at 1900+ years old I'm not complaining!

I have some metal detecting friends who have found much older however!

Personally I much prefer to find a nice artefact than coin's and I'm by no means an expert in numismatics. I particularly enjoy finding items from the medieval period or even more recent.

Here is an example, a 16th Century dagger quillion.

It's not complete, missing the other sides protective bar but has the thumb-rest, and I finished that days detecting feeling satisfied I had found another piece of personal history.

BishopTARDIS

Mar 22, 2014

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#68

I enjoy coin roll hunting. Had great luck yesterday. Searched six rolls of cents and found...

Five wheats, two Canadian pennies.

Just saw the new UK pound coint coming out in 2017. I already want one.

kayak21

Mar 22, 2014

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#69

Well lets hope the queen is still alive and kicking in 2017. :-)

BishopTARDIS

Mar 22, 2014

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Well The Queen Mother lived 101 years. So I'd give Queen Elizabeth II a good chance of gracing this coin in 2017.

kayak21

Mar 22, 2014

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#71

I met the queen mother once :-)

uwinagain

Mar 22, 2014

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#72

kayak21 wrote:

I met the queen mother once :-)

Really Kayak, well I hope she did a curtsey!

kayak21

Mar 23, 2014

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uwinagain wrote:

kayak21 wrote:

I met the queen mother once :-)

Really Kayak, well I hope she did a curtsey!

Well of course she did! Who wouldn't?

Tree_House_Chess

Mar 23, 2014

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Ok... I just learned how to post pictures taken by my cell phone to my lap top. Sheesh I'm techno challenged:(

Anyway...Ill be sharing some pics of my coins soon :)

ivandh

Mar 23, 2014

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kayak21 a écrit :

Well lets hope the queen is still alive and kicking in 2017. :-)

She'd better quit skydiving then, apparently after the Olympics it's become her favorite hobby.

kayak21

Mar 23, 2014

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ivandh wrote:

kayak21 a écrit :

Well lets hope the queen is still alive and kicking in 2017. :-)

She'd better quit skydiving then, apparently after the Olympics it's become her favorite hobby.

I thought she was brilliant doing the James Bond thingy. Nobody can top that.

BishopTARDIS

Mar 24, 2014

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#77

Great day I had back in 2012, one silver ring, a toy car, and 17 coins. I also found a bike chain with the lock still attached that day.

winerkleiner

Mar 24, 2014

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#78

You guys are making me want to go out an buy a detector!

BishopTARDIS

Mar 24, 2014

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#79

First Rule of Metal Detecting--You will dig junk and lots of it.

Second Rule of Metal Detecting--Dig enough holes and you will find really cool stuff.

Third Rule of Metal Detecting--Half the fun is the hunt.

Forth Rule of Metal Detecting--You never forget your first gold find.

uwinagain

Mar 25, 2014

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Bishop Tardis, you are dead right mate, it is the thrill of the search, it's a great hobby! You had a good haul that day, always nice to find a bit of silver! Gold still eludes me however.

We say over here "you've got to walk over it!" and that is true, there is a big element of luck involved. Having said that the guys who detect beaches fair better in the gold stake's. I only detect farmland (with permission), and that is usually after a bit of research before asking. At least that way I have an idea on what I might find.

I dig a lot of rubbish too, it's unavoidable because a lot of trash can give a good signal. I always remove it though to avoid finding it again and the farmers appreciate it too, a lot of it is harmful to cattle etc!

Winerkleiner, buy a Garrett, an American make and well respected over here too! A good starter model is the Ace 250 or a bit more for the 350, the 350 is called a Euroace over here. I use the AT Pro International but your version is just called the AT Pro. That's because of our differing geology and soil structure with different mineralisation etc. Hope this helps if you want to take it up fella, and good luck!