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hitthepin
Aug 18, 2019
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#581
Jesus_Is_C0ming wrote:
gingerninja2003 wrote:
Jesus_Is_C0ming wrote:
HudsonFosterK wrote:
gingerninja2003 wrote:
HudsonFosterK wrote:

But do you know why Jalena and I are still here, instead of just leaving, knowing you're wrong?

The only thing we know is I think therefore I am. I could be in mental asylum imagining all of this. As there is no evidence for this being the case, everyone lives there life on the assumption that they aren't hallucinating this.

"Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up. Blessed is the man who remains steadfast under trial, for when he has stood the test he will receive the crown of life, which God has promised to those who love him" Now, bye, I've got to go to church in a bit!

This verse is so good.

Bye! Ttyl! God will show you awesome things today

On your way, cheer your self up and bash some children's heads against rocks as it says in pslam 137:9.

I bet you arent thinking about the context of this? Would you like to study the context?? Do that rather than throwing that around.

I guess that I’ll give the context. Psalm 137 is a psalm referrring to the Babylonians, the enemies of the Jews. The babies being referred to here are the Babylonians babies, not their own.

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Shore31
Aug 18, 2019
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#582
gingerninja2003 wrote:
Jesus_Is_C0ming wrote:
gingerninja2003 wrote:
Jesus_Is_C0ming wrote:
HudsonFosterK wrote:
gingerninja2003 wrote:
HudsonFosterK wrote:

But do you know why Jalena and I are still here, instead of just leaving, knowing you're wrong?

The only thing we know is I think therefore I am. I could be in mental asylum imagining all of this. As there is no evidence for this being the case, everyone lives there life on the assumption that they aren't hallucinating this.

"Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up. Blessed is the man who remains steadfast under trial, for when he has stood the test he will receive the crown of life, which God has promised to those who love him" Now, bye, I've got to go to church in a bit!

This verse is so good.

Bye! Ttyl! God will show you awesome things today

On your way, cheer your self up and bash some children's heads against rocks as it says in pslam 137:9.

I bet you arent thinking about the context of this? Would you like to study the context?? Do that rather than throwing that around.

The context is that as the Babylons enslaved the Israelites their children somehow deserve to be killed in a horrific manor. 

You'll have to give me verses and a more depth explanation for me to believe what you're saying.

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gingerninja2003
Aug 18, 2019
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#583
chessfightstream wrote:
As I’ve said before, this conversation y’all are having right now is useless because points are not being made. Instead, you are taking turns making pointless statements and mocking each other. Read up on Christianity before you bash it ginger. You’re just parroting arguments you’ve heard. Jesusiscoming, while I’m on your side, I don’t think you are doing it justice and you are just worsening matters at this point

I'm 'bashing' the belief in an immoral god.

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HudsonFosterK
Aug 18, 2019
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#584

How 'bout we all take a break?

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chessfightstream
Aug 18, 2019
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#585
Sorry Hudson :P, and Jesusiscoming I know you really want to convince people, and I love your heart, it’s in the right place
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hitthepin
Aug 18, 2019
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#586
HudsonFosterK wrote:

How 'bout we all take a break?

Somehow, I find this possibility unlikely.

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HudsonFosterK
Aug 18, 2019
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#587

No, if they truly believe in him, not if they just say they believe in him!

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hitthepin
Aug 18, 2019
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#588
Ginarook wrote:
Jesus_Is_C0ming wrote:
Ginarook wrote:
Jesus_Is_C0ming wrote:
Ginarook wrote:
Jesus_Is_C0ming wrote:
Ginarook wrote:

No actually, I have the answers, the difference between us is that you seek such answers from an external force, one for which there is no concrete evidence that it even exists.

I have worked out my own answers.

Are you another who has been brought up with religion by any chance ? those other two refused to answer that question, will you as well

Your own answers? What are they based on? You cant just take something and say “this is whatever i want/think it to be”...it doesnt work that way, in case you didnt know.

———

I’m so glad I grew up in a Christian home. God gave me a good family. He is sooo good. I feel sorry for the people that dont know Christ. But as long as i live, i will try and turn them from the path of hell. And frankly, you’re on that path. Could you describe hell in your mind for me?

I knew that was the case didn't I ?

I'm sorry but after 8 years in a "religious school" it is very easy to tell those who have not had much of a chance to think for themselves, still its your life, live it as you choose

You havent answered my question. What does hell look like in your mind?

Its difficult to imagine a place I do not believe in, have never seen, have no pictures, films, or whatever of.

But from what you all have said, I think I prefer the company of Hells residents.

I do not want the company of evil people who at the last minute do some kind of "conversion"

Your God quite frankly if he exists is rather stupid lol. if he believes all that lot, does he want to buy some shares in this Gold Mine I just bought

Lemme ask you something. So, you want to live in eternal fire, eternal hate, eternal misery, eternal pain, eternal sorrow, eternal regret, eternal hurt? You want to live where AWFUL people are going, murderers, killers, shooters, all types of horrible people. Tell me, DO YOU WANT TO LIVE THERE?? You should believe in it, because after all, its where you're headed!

You are totally missing the point, lets say you are correct about Hells residents, your god will let all such awful people in upstairs anyway if they just say they believe in him !!

Thats is what "you lot" have clearly said lol

So exactly the same applies to you, no I do not wish to exist with such people, but it seems they get everywhere, including this heaven of yours !!

I'm thinking maybe total extermination might be preferable ?!

So... you want to destroy the entire human race? Yikes. That would suck.

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HudsonFosterK
Aug 18, 2019
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#589
hitthepin wrote:
HudsonFosterK wrote:

How 'bout we all take a break?

Somehow, I find this possibility unlikely.

I'll start! tongue.png

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Shore31
Aug 18, 2019
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#590
Ginarook wrote:
Jesus_Is_C0ming wrote:
Ginarook wrote:
Jesus_Is_C0ming wrote:
Ginarook wrote:
Jesus_Is_C0ming wrote:
Ginarook wrote:

No actually, I have the answers, the difference between us is that you seek such answers from an external force, one for which there is no concrete evidence that it even exists.

I have worked out my own answers.

Are you another who has been brought up with religion by any chance ? those other two refused to answer that question, will you as well

Your own answers? What are they based on? You cant just take something and say “this is whatever i want/think it to be”...it doesnt work that way, in case you didnt know.

———

I’m so glad I grew up in a Christian home. God gave me a good family. He is sooo good. I feel sorry for the people that dont know Christ. But as long as i live, i will try and turn them from the path of hell. And frankly, you’re on that path. Could you describe hell in your mind for me?

I knew that was the case didn't I ?

I'm sorry but after 8 years in a "religious school" it is very easy to tell those who have not had much of a chance to think for themselves, still its your life, live it as you choose

You havent answered my question. What does hell look like in your mind?

Its difficult to imagine a place I do not believe in, have never seen, have no pictures, films, or whatever of.

But from what you all have said, I think I prefer the company of Hells residents.

I do not want the company of evil people who at the last minute do some kind of "conversion"

Your God quite frankly if he exists is rather stupid lol. if he believes all that lot, does he want to buy some shares in this Gold Mine I just bought

Lemme ask you something. So, you want to live in eternal fire, eternal hate, eternal misery, eternal pain, eternal sorrow, eternal regret, eternal hurt? You want to live where AWFUL people are going, murderers, killers, shooters, all types of horrible people. Tell me, DO YOU WANT TO LIVE THERE?? You should believe in it, because after all, its where you're headed!

You are totally missing the point, lets say you are correct about Hells residents, your god will let all such awful people in upstairs anyway if they just say they believe in him !!

Thats is what "you lot" have clearly said lol

So exactly the same applies to you, no I do not wish to exist with such people, but it seems they get everywhere, including this heaven of yours !!

I'm thinking maybe total extermination might be preferable ?!

Its MUCH more than just saying you believe in Him!

Anyway, that was the last comment on it, I'm going to take a break.

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HudsonFosterK
Aug 18, 2019
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#591
hitthepin wrote:
Ginarook wrote:
Jesus_Is_C0ming wrote:
Ginarook wrote:
Jesus_Is_C0ming wrote:
Ginarook wrote:
Jesus_Is_C0ming wrote:
Ginarook wrote:

No actually, I have the answers, the difference between us is that you seek such answers from an external force, one for which there is no concrete evidence that it even exists.

I have worked out my own answers.

Are you another who has been brought up with religion by any chance ? those other two refused to answer that question, will you as well

Your own answers? What are they based on? You cant just take something and say “this is whatever i want/think it to be”...it doesnt work that way, in case you didnt know.

———

I’m so glad I grew up in a Christian home. God gave me a good family. He is sooo good. I feel sorry for the people that dont know Christ. But as long as i live, i will try and turn them from the path of hell. And frankly, you’re on that path. Could you describe hell in your mind for me?

I knew that was the case didn't I ?

I'm sorry but after 8 years in a "religious school" it is very easy to tell those who have not had much of a chance to think for themselves, still its your life, live it as you choose

You havent answered my question. What does hell look like in your mind?

Its difficult to imagine a place I do not believe in, have never seen, have no pictures, films, or whatever of.

But from what you all have said, I think I prefer the company of Hells residents.

I do not want the company of evil people who at the last minute do some kind of "conversion"

Your God quite frankly if he exists is rather stupid lol. if he believes all that lot, does he want to buy some shares in this Gold Mine I just bought

Lemme ask you something. So, you want to live in eternal fire, eternal hate, eternal misery, eternal pain, eternal sorrow, eternal regret, eternal hurt? You want to live where AWFUL people are going, murderers, killers, shooters, all types of horrible people. Tell me, DO YOU WANT TO LIVE THERE?? You should believe in it, because after all, its where you're headed!

You are totally missing the point, lets say you are correct about Hells residents, your god will let all such awful people in upstairs anyway if they just say they believe in him !!

Thats is what "you lot" have clearly said lol

So exactly the same applies to you, no I do not wish to exist with such people, but it seems they get everywhere, including this heaven of yours !!

I'm thinking maybe total extermination might be preferable ?!

So... you want to destroy the entire human race? Yikes. That would suck.

Well it's kinda already happening! tongue.png

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Shore31
Aug 18, 2019
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#592
chessfightstream wrote:
Sorry Hudson :P, and Jesusiscoming I know you really want to convince people, and I love your heart, it’s in the right place

Thanks...I just wish I could be a better servant sad.png

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Shore31
Aug 18, 2019
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#593

I wont be answering for a while, because I am going to take a break.

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hitthepin
Aug 18, 2019
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#594

*ahem* 

According to the Bible, “All have sinned,”. All. ALL. I once heard a very good analogy for sin that goes like this:

To us humans, we see sins like we see cars on the ground. Every car is a car, but there are noticeable differences between them. If you got a person who was an expert on cars to look at one, he could go on and on about the specifics of the car until you ran out of patience.

God, On the other hand, sees sin the way we might see cars from a plane. From that high up and from such a distance away, all the cars look virtually identical. For all intents and purposes, they ARE the same.

So, according to the Christian God of the Bible, those murderers and rapists aren’t really all that different to God as the people who lied to their parents once when they were eight. EVERYONE has sinned. EVERYONE needs saving. We’re all the same.

Are these answers to your satisfaction?

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chessfightstream
Aug 18, 2019
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#595
Gina. I don’t think we’ve met yet. I suppose I’ll answer your question. What do you define as a really good life? The best of people admit that they have lied, stolen, hated people, lusted, cursed, etc. They did good things though. I’ve done some good things. You’ve done some good things. Hitler did some good things. I believe that if you truly, on your deathbed, repent of your sins, then you can go to heaven. Would you deny a person heaven? Since you hate the idea of hell so much, why would you want that person to go to hell?
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chessfightstream
Aug 18, 2019
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#596
My answer is merely an addendum, as opposed to a full answer
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hitthepin
Aug 18, 2019
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#597

Now, we’re al logical people, yes? Let’s not insult each other. This is a debate, not a crapshoot.

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hitthepin
Aug 18, 2019
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#598
Ginarook wrote: 
hitthepin wrote:
Ginarook wrote:
Jesus_Is_C0ming wrote:
Ginarook wrote:
Jesus_Is_C0ming wrote:
Ginarook wrote:
Jesus_Is_C0ming wrote:
Ginarook wrote:

No actually, I have the answers, the difference between us is that you seek such answers from an external force, one for which there is no concrete evidence that it even exists.

I have worked out my own answers.

Are you another who has been brought up with religion by any chance ? those other two refused to answer that question, will you as well

Your own answers? What are they based on? You cant just take something and say “this is whatever i want/think it to be”...it doesnt work that way, in case you didnt know.

———

I’m so glad I grew up in a Christian home. God gave me a good family. He is sooo good. I feel sorry for the people that dont know Christ. But as long as i live, i will try and turn them from the path of hell. And frankly, you’re on that path. Could you describe hell in your mind for me?

I knew that was the case didn't I ?

I'm sorry but after 8 years in a "religious school" it is very easy to tell those who have not had much of a chance to think for themselves, still its your life, live it as you choose

You havent answered my question. What does hell look like in your mind?

Its difficult to imagine a place I do not believe in, have never seen, have no pictures, films, or whatever of.

But from what you all have said, I think I prefer the company of Hells residents.

I do not want the company of evil people who at the last minute do some kind of "conversion"

Your God quite frankly if he exists is rather stupid lol. if he believes all that lot, does he want to buy some shares in this Gold Mine I just bought

Lemme ask you something. So, you want to live in eternal fire, eternal hate, eternal misery, eternal pain, eternal sorrow, eternal regret, eternal hurt? You want to live where AWFUL people are going, murderers, killers, shooters, all types of horrible people. Tell me, DO YOU WANT TO LIVE THERE?? You should believe in it, because after all, its where you're headed!

You are totally missing the point, lets say you are correct about Hells residents, your god will let all such awful people in upstairs anyway if they just say they believe in him !!

Thats is what "you lot" have clearly said lol

So exactly the same applies to you, no I do not wish to exist with such people, but it seems they get everywhere, including this heaven of yours !!

I'm thinking maybe total extermination might be preferable ?!

So... you want to destroy the entire human race? Yikes. That would suck.

No, that is not what I said...is it ?

Nor is it what I meant, what I meant was solely for me

I would prefer that you do not make something out of nothing

See, its perfectly possible..you just did it !

I’m sorry. I did not understand what you meant by this line, and tried to interpret it. Would you care to explain what you meant, then?

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MainframeSupertasker
Aug 18, 2019
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#599

🤣🤣 hahahaha appendix... xDxD

I'd let yall remember that a few months ago, i asked a Christian whether these words of wisdom (like... Proverbs) freebies in the Bible, and we're meant to find other words of wisdom that aren't written in the limited Bible?

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chessfightstream
Aug 18, 2019
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#600
So, IMO, neither is it in the Bible that babies go to heaven or not. I believe they do. I do not have a verse. Therefore, neither of us can use this point to argue.
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