Controversial Topic (Creation vs Evolution 2?)

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Jesus_Is_C0ming escribió:
Prometheus_Fuschs wrote:
Jesus_Is_C0ming escribió:
gingerninja2003 wrote:
removed this bit since it's taking up room.

I have not done anything that warrants being burnt for eternity.

You believe babies are sent to hell for the crime of being born.

Thats what you think. You think you havent done anything wrong for it. As I've said before...why dont you go read the Bible? I can guarantee it will help a ton. And dont say you're too busy to.

TBH. If I read the bible cover to cover (although i've seen a lot of it) and believed every word of it. I'd probably say stupid things as well.

Injustice is a key part of people's moral compass and god is acting ignorant of the moral rules he's breaking.

 

You know, you're actually the one saying stupid things. Did you know that Satan has a cover over your eyes so you cant see the truth? And if you deny it, that's just proof!!!! That's Satan saying that!!

Circular reasoning is a logical fallacy so that is not proof.

It is proof, actually

No wonder you keep saying the same stupid s***, you don't even know what is proper logic.

No use for bad words.

No use for fallacies, at least bad words aren't misleading.

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chessfightstream wrote:
It’s definitely not talking about eunuchs. I’ve read the passage several times while we are talking

Then why is he using the word eunuch in matthew 19 verse 12.

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gingerninja2003 wrote:
Jesus_Is_C0ming wrote:
gingerninja2003 wrote:
Jesus_Is_C0ming wrote:

DNA: "deoxyribonucleic acid, a self-replicating material which is present in nearly all living organisms as the main constituent of chromosomes. It is the carrier of genetic information."

Proves me right as that is clearly a copy and paste from the font change.

Yes, of course. I wasnt intend anything else.

So you don't know what DNA is and therefore won't understand why we are similar to chimps.

No, I just didnt know how to explain it, so I copied what I looked up, because I knew it would be a better explanation

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Jesus_Is_C0ming escribió:

DNA: "deoxyribonucleic acid, a self-replicating material which is present in nearly all living organisms as the main constituent of chromosomes. It is the carrier of genetic information."

Where's the fun of C&P? At least change the font.

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Prometheus_Fuschs wrote:
Jesus_Is_C0ming escribió:
Prometheus_Fuschs wrote:
Jesus_Is_C0ming escribió:
gingerninja2003 wrote:
removed this bit since it's taking up room.

I have not done anything that warrants being burnt for eternity.

You believe babies are sent to hell for the crime of being born.

Thats what you think. You think you havent done anything wrong for it. As I've said before...why dont you go read the Bible? I can guarantee it will help a ton. And dont say you're too busy to.

TBH. If I read the bible cover to cover (although i've seen a lot of it) and believed every word of it. I'd probably say stupid things as well.

Injustice is a key part of people's moral compass and god is acting ignorant of the moral rules he's breaking.

 

You know, you're actually the one saying stupid things. Did you know that Satan has a cover over your eyes so you cant see the truth? And if you deny it, that's just proof!!!! That's Satan saying that!!

Circular reasoning is a logical fallacy so that is not proof.

It is proof, actually

No wonder you keep saying the same stupid s***, you don't even know what is proper logic.

No use for bad words.

No use for fallacies, at least bad words aren't misleading.

But this isnt a fallacy wink.png

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Jesus_Is_C0ming wrote:
gingerninja2003 wrote:
Jesus_Is_C0ming wrote:
gingerninja2003 wrote:
Jesus_Is_C0ming wrote:

DNA: "deoxyribonucleic acid, a self-replicating material which is present in nearly all living organisms as the main constituent of chromosomes. It is the carrier of genetic information."

Proves me right as that is clearly a copy and paste from the font change.

Yes, of course. I wasnt intend anything else.

So you don't know what DNA is and therefore won't understand why we are similar to chimps.

No, I just didnt know how to explain it, so I copied what I looked up, because I knew it would be a better explanation

If you knew what it was, then it would be very easy to put it in your own words.

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Jesus_Is_C0ming escribió:
Prometheus_Fuschs wrote:
Jesus_Is_C0ming escribió:
Prometheus_Fuschs wrote:
Jesus_Is_C0ming escribió:
gingerninja2003 wrote:
removed this bit since it's taking up room.

I have not done anything that warrants being burnt for eternity.

You believe babies are sent to hell for the crime of being born.

Thats what you think. You think you havent done anything wrong for it. As I've said before...why dont you go read the Bible? I can guarantee it will help a ton. And dont say you're too busy to.

TBH. If I read the bible cover to cover (although i've seen a lot of it) and believed every word of it. I'd probably say stupid things as well.

Injustice is a key part of people's moral compass and god is acting ignorant of the moral rules he's breaking.

 

You know, you're actually the one saying stupid things. Did you know that Satan has a cover over your eyes so you cant see the truth? And if you deny it, that's just proof!!!! That's Satan saying that!!

Circular reasoning is a logical fallacy so that is not proof.

It is proof, actually

No wonder you keep saying the same stupid s***, you don't even know what is proper logic.

No use for bad words.

No use for fallacies, at least bad words aren't misleading.

But this isnt a fallacy

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/begging-the-question

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Prometheus_Fuschs wrote:
HudsonFosterK escribió:
gingerninja2003 wrote:
HudsonFosterK wrote:

Also, how do you believe that something as delicate and amazing as a human could be created by evolution?

Because we know how evolution works. creatures have random mutations in their DNA, the ones that positively affect the creatures chances of the reproduction will be passed on and will eventually dominate the gene pool. Over millions of years (that's a lot of mutations). eventually, create the animal kingdom we have today.

But that would take much longer to create a human, there are no links between apes and humans, and why aren't we changing anymore?

Factually incorrect.

People keep on saying this without giving me the supposed "links"

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Well yeah Ginger it says the word eunuch. However, there’s obviously time between the verses. How would that verse apply to eunuchs anyway? I have this feeling that you really don’t have any evidence for your argument this time
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HudsonFosterK escribió:
Prometheus_Fuschs wrote:
HudsonFosterK escribió:
gingerninja2003 wrote:
HudsonFosterK wrote:

Also, how do you believe that something as delicate and amazing as a human could be created by evolution?

Because we know how evolution works. creatures have random mutations in their DNA, the ones that positively affect the creatures chances of the reproduction will be passed on and will eventually dominate the gene pool. Over millions of years (that's a lot of mutations). eventually, create the animal kingdom we have today.

But that would take much longer to create a human, there are no links between apes and humans, and why aren't we changing anymore?

Factually incorrect.

People keep on saying this without giving me the supposed "links"

https://www.genome.gov/15515096/2005-release-new-genome-comparison-finds-chimps-humans-very-similar-at-dna-level

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Ginarook wrote:
hitthepin wrote:

If that’s not God claiming to be intelligent, I’m not sure what is.

It simply is not !!

Please read it, straightforwardly

There is no mention of intelligence or any similar quality.. is there ?

You would clearly like there to be, but if it isn't there, it isn't there

Read the Bible wink.pngwink.pngwink.png

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chessfightstream wrote:
Well yeah Ginger it says the word eunuch. However, there’s obviously time between the verses. How would that verse apply to eunuchs anyway? I have this feeling that you really don’t have any evidence for your argument this time

There isn't much time, it's the same speech. Children could be used as a metaphor as they are gods children and these specific children are granted into heaven. We don't know either way and so we can't use this as a basis for who and who doesn't go to hell.

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Notice the key word then. That indicates we are moving on from eunuchs. Then there were brought to him little children. Simple grammar.
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gingerninja2003 escribió:
chessfightstream wrote:
Well yeah Ginger it says the word eunuch. However, there’s obviously time between the verses. How would that verse apply to eunuchs anyway? I have this feeling that you really don’t have any evidence for your argument this time

There isn't much time, it's the same speech. Children could be used as a metaphor as they are gods children and these specific children are granted into heaven. We don't know either way and so we can't use this as a basis for who and who doesn't go to hell.

Did God save the children in the world when the great flood came?

 

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I used fallacies against the Christian I debated against 2 years ago, but those fallacies didn't prove her words to be false/useless. Hence there always existed a probabilistic possibility of God's existence. She just used the wrong way of logic.

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MainframeSupertasker escribió:

I used fallacies against the Christian I debated against 2 years ago, but those fallacies didn't prove her words to be false/useless. Hence there always existed a probabilistic possibility of God's existence. She just used the wrong way of logic.

P->Q =! Q->P

 

The same goes for the negation.

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chessfightstream wrote:
Notice the key word then. That indicates we are moving on from eunuchs. Then there were brought to him little children. Simple grammar.

But children (still unsure about that since he asks if they committed adultery) were brought to him and Jesus asked them if they broke any of the commandments and they say no so only children that follow the rules are allowed into heaven not all children.

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We are talking about Matthew 19 13-15 right?
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chessfightstream wrote:
We are talking about Matthew 19 13-15 right?

Matthew 19 , 13-21

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First he talks about divorce, then eunuchs, then people bring little children to him, then the disciples tell the people that they should t bring them, then Jesus says it’s okay, blessed them, and sends them away. That’s a chronological list for you
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