Controversial Topic (Creation vs Evolution 2?)

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USArmyParatrooper escribió:
Prometheus_Fuschs wrote:
HolographWars escribió:
VicountVonJames wrote:
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What are you talking about? Of course God heals! Remember how in the 1700s he healed cowpox? Or polio in 1954?


Oh... wait a second....

The people who discovered the cures were Christian.

That doesn't matter because it was them who cured, not God.

Exactly. It is statistically probable that my plumber is Christian, but nobody claims god fixed my pipes.

Can I get God's number? My house is damaged and I need a washing machine to be installed.

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@USArmyParatrooper

I believe it is indeed repeatable, but it will fail just for one reason. It would be going against atheism, i guess? Atheism is defined as the lack of faith/belief in a deity(s). I was not necessarily an atheist at that time. I believed in the possibility of every occurrence as dictated by scientific probability. I knew God was not proven, neither disproven, so that's what made me try this experiment.

The only seemingly possible way for me to disprove God was by through that. I had to "repent from all my sins, accept Him as the savior, with a humble heart and leave my life in His hands, knowing that He has the best plan for it." I also had to believe that he exists, otherwise it wouldn't have worked.

I tried this 2 times.

1st time - It was due to the lack of faith that made me fail it. I knew in my heart that I did not proceed according to what it said. I started to feel like this was silly, and unworthy of doing. But I had to be fair: I didn't follow the rules exactly, and hence I was not shown the Light.

2nd time - Took me a year to think about trying again. I got to know a little bit more about the Bible, and how everything worked. This time it was Real. I begged God to reveal Himself to me, and I "knew" He existed. I found myself in silent prayer. After completion, I felt it. I cannot describe it in words. It's a weird form of energy that I've never experienced before. I understood at the end, that my will should align with His will, so that I could be shown the Light.

 

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Ginarook wrote:

You can try and explain exactly why you are all doing the same thing as you have done all through this daft thread lol.

What exactly do you think will happen this time ?

Something different ?? . like what

Applies to you.

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Hi everyone

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Prometheus_Fuschs wrote:
HolographWars escribió:

Thx for taking time to argue!

Where to ambulances take you to heal? I'll give you a hint, not to church.

Are you Christian? If not, then why would some random god heal you? He wouldn’t, as you don’t believe in him.

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Us army paratrooper 

God will not heal if you don’t even think he exists.

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So your experiment to ascertain if a god exists requires you to ALREADY believe that a god exists. Sounds pretty useless, and how reliable is an experiment that *requires* confirmation bias as a feature?

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HolographWars wrote:

Us army paratrooper 

God will not heal if you don’t even think he exists.

 And for amputees it *doesn’t matter* if they think he exists. Strange isn’t it?

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USArmyParatrooper wrote:

So your experiment to ascertain if a god exists requires you to ALREADY believe that a god exists. Sounds pretty useless, and how reliable is an experiment that *requires* confirmation bias as a feature?

Not useless. Many people in need of healing turn to God and get healed.

But your case isn’t my problem. Nor is it God’s.

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HolographWars wrote:
USArmyParatrooper wrote:

So your experiment to ascertain if a god exists requires you to ALREADY believe that a god exists. Sounds pretty useless, and how reliable is an experiment that *requires* confirmation bias as a feature?

Not useless. Many people in need of healing turn to God and get healed.

But your case isn’t my problem. Nor is it God’s.

But not amputees. Why not amputees? 

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HolographWars wrote:
Prometheus_Fuschs wrote:
HolographWars escribió:

Thx for taking time to argue!

Where to ambulances take you to heal? I'll give you a hint, not to church.

Are you Christian? If not, then why would some random god heal you? He wouldn’t, as you don’t believe in him.

Most of Africa is Christian. That's why it's completely free of illnesses. Oh, it isn't. Well this random god doesn't even heal people who believe in him.

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HolographWars wrote:
USArmyParatrooper wrote:

So your experiment to ascertain if a god exists requires you to ALREADY believe that a god exists. Sounds pretty useless, and how reliable is an experiment that *requires* confirmation bias as a feature?

Not useless. Many people in need of healing turn to God and get healed.

But your case isn’t my problem. Nor is it God’s.

Placebo effect. We know how it works. It is not a surprise this happens. 

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HolographWars escribió:
Prometheus_Fuschs wrote:
HolographWars escribió:

Thx for taking time to argue!

Where to ambulances take you to heal? I'll give you a hint, not to church.

Are you Christian? If not, then why would some random god heal you? He wouldn’t, as you don’t believe in him.

But christians aren't taken to church to be healed either are they?

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HolographWars escribió:
USArmyParatrooper wrote:

So your experiment to ascertain if a god exists requires you to ALREADY believe that a god exists. Sounds pretty useless, and how reliable is an experiment that *requires* confirmation bias as a feature?

Not useless. Many people in need of healing turn to God and get healed.

But your case isn’t my problem. Nor is it God’s.

Oh really? Guess you can ditch that medical insurance then, no problems from my point of view.

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Have you all set on agreement that God is not evil, or do you disobey Einstein?

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On the god is evil topic I think no-one does it better in 2 minutes than Stephen Fry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-suvkwNYSQo

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HolographWars escribió:

Have you all set on agreement that God is not evil, or do you disobey Einstein?

Einstein wasn't christian so you disobey Einstein.

 

And no, God as it is seen in the bible is evil, more evil than the devil for sure.

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Prometheus_Fuschs wrote:
HolographWars escribió:

Have you all set on agreement that God is not evil, or do you disobey Einstein?

Einstein wasn't christian so you disobey Einstein.

 

And no, God as it is seen in the bible is evil, more evil than the devil for sure.

First statement: like claiming everyone who supports trump is racist.

2. 

Scratches head

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I put out a picture of what God is, and the first ten were there, did you guys see? 

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