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Have you truly ever seen the Southern Cross before?

There’s three crosses... One MASSIVE, representing The Holy Spirit, then one as a shadow, representing The Father, and last you have one that forms as if to be a cross on the ground, and that represents the Son dying for you and all. On the right end of the MASSIVE Cross forms a V for being victorious His Son overcoming death, and just below it forms as a footstool at the bottom of its MASSIVENESS representing what’s written declaring making His enemies His footstool, with two bright stars spread out positioned aligned with the above V for victory.

 

T H A T  is Astoundingly Beautiful !

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A "V" for victory?

But... English didn't exist at the time of Jesus's death.

Oh, I guess you mean God rearranged the stars some time afterwords as a sign to English speakers?

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....there are more designs

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You’ve never heard one day to the Lord is as ONE THOUSAND YEARS before?

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....such IS His Intelligence 

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I'm just saying, it would have been nice to have star signs for people who spoke ancient Hebrew and Greek around the time of Jesus' death. It's sort of a waste to have a main sign be for English speakers that didn't exist yet... but sure, God can do whatever he wants.

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He declares also to those that love Him that they haven’t even yet fathomed what God hath planned for such. Now..... think about that for a second, will ya...... imagine anything................. ANYTHING and you then cannot say it hasn’t been fathomed, get what I’m bringing to your attention?

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That is Infinite Intelligence 

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Yeah, you're saying literally nothing can be evidence against your belief, because you can ad hoc fallacy it away tongue.png

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Would you like me to post that verse?

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It's just words in a book. I can write words in books too, and no amount of people copying what I write through the ages is going to make it any more true or more false.

All through human history we see the same thing, across every culture... people make up religions. Others believe in them and copy them.

It's still happening today.

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1 Corinthians 2:9 KJV

But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love Him.

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Ok, but that doesn't address my observation that one of the signs you find most compelling (a V in the sky) was irrelevant for a thousand years, and that it would have been logical for God to have a sign for the ancient languages spoken at the time.

It also doesn't address my observation that at best these signs can only point to a power higher than humans, and that nothing can truly act as evidence for an infinite God, and so that in the end it comes down to faith.

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just words? Just a saved leg from full length cast because what, then? Or, running into home plate when the day before a car coming off freeway ramp slammed into me? You kidding me??? 😂

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What in Heaven’s name then IS Intelligence? God IS your only answer.

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For example, when people make new religions, they often borrow from old ones.

Mormons are an easy example, they're only a few 100 years old and obviously borrowed from Christianity.

Christianity borrowed from Egyptian Gods... heck ever notice how angels told shepherds in their fields about the birth of Jesus? That means it wasn't December. They changed it do December because that was a pagan holiday first, waaaay before Jesus.

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TheBestBeer_Root wrote:

just words? Just a saved leg from full length cast because what, then? Or, running into home plate when the day before a car coming off freeway ramp slammed into me? You kidding me??? 😂

At best that points to a power higher than humans, which is very far from pointing to an infinite God, and specifically your version of an infinite God (no doubt a Muslim in your situation would have taken it as proof of Allah)

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TheBestBeer_Root wrote:

What in Heaven’s name then IS Intelligence? God IS your only answer.

Yes, this is a much better Christian response. You claim knowledge doesn't exist in the first place. You ask people to doubt their minds and their eyes and trust only in God.

(I say it's better because it's impossible to argue against.)

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In before the lock!