Covid-19 Discussion (moderated)

Your link isn't a link ...but I read about this yesterday.  It brings up an important point again, which is that vaccines are not really meant to be permanent...they are meant to achieve herd immunity and get rid of a virus.  If 1/4 to 1/3 of the people refuse to vaccine and the virus is circulating worldwide and mutating, you may never reach that goal.

I recently got a shingles vaccine and they also re-vaccinated for Hep B because I did not have antibodies anymore (and some some vaccines, like Hep B, are known for "not taking" or wearing off sooner).

Another vaccine cautionary tale:

My mother kept putting off her shingles vaccine over and over again (nowadays you are supposed to get it anytime after 50, and she is 80...), and *1 week* before her 6-months-out appointment to get the vaccine, she got shingles.  It's extremely painful, for starters, but more importantly, it can lead to permanent nerve damage that results in chronic pain for the rest of your life.  She is recovered, but she's still in pain, and there's a chance now that she will always be in pain from it (about 15% of people that get shingles, I believe).

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/12/mayo-clinic-covid-breakthrough-risk-may-be-much-lower-with-moderna-vaccine-than-pfizer.html

Should be the same story.

Here's some food for thought for the crowd that seems to think that if you don't die from getting Covid-19, you are hunky-dory:

https://news.yahoo.com/45-old-kansas-mayor-needs-093506272.html

I wish they would quit referring to it as "free".  Its not free.  I go for my 2nd. pfizer shot today.  No ill effects from the first shot, but we will see. 

True enough, but I guess it's too long to say "vaccine that is already paid for by taxes for and you are therefore entitled to" .

That is why when words like: Free...entitlement are used i know its costing me something that others get for "free".

Money is an abstraction that is supposed to represent people's time and effort put in.  When it got further abstracted to the point where money produces more of itself out of thin air ...that's when the trouble comes in.  That represents a siphoning of wealth...and "interest" and "inflation" are just manifestations of money moving from those who don't have much to those that have far too much.  When the stock market gains, it's ultimate effect is to devalue the time of effort of all the people who *don't* have enough money to invest and keep up with the inflation cycle.

Once you have a helicopter, whether you can afford to gold plate it or have diamond capped rivets is really immaterial to your quality of life.  But if you are surviving week to week on minimum wage, then fruit becoming as expensive as steak makes a big impact on your life.

Now we have everyone talking about trying to generate "generational wealth" for their families to join the "haves"...but the answer is actually to get rid of generational wealth altogether.  It should not exist, if money represents an individual and what they have earned.

Sorry for the economic diversion.

  Mike,...good luck with the 2nd shot....its a kicker....I was down for 24 hrs.....just a LOT of body aches. 

Thanks Ron.  Besides soreness at the injection site on the first shot, nothing bad happened.  But i have heard the 2nd shot can kick your butt.  If im not on here tomorrow, just assume something bad happened :-)

I got the second Pfizer almost one month ago and  I only got a bit of pain in my arm. 

  At 1st I thought the body aches was me, because I'm a smoker but then some other people confirmed it was them too. I hope your right. Maybe you won't get the aches. Some people don't.

A guy i work with took the company allowed 3 days off after each of his shots :-)

Some people work it for all they can. 

The company one of my sons works at paid each employee $200.00 to receive the shots.

Bribery can be effective.

eh, for me, after both doses, headaches peaked the second day and dissipated into the third

And no doubt some have had some serious side effects form the shots.  Im just saying some will work it for all they can.

  If your in relatively good health,...you should be fine.

Boosters for all vaccines including non-Covid ones will become the norm if the anti-vaxxers keep proliferating.  People just don't get how vaccines work, the same way they still don't understand that you wear a mask to protect other people primarily.

You have to beat viruses as a team...individual efforts and precautions are pointless if your community is still crawling with infected people not taking precautions themselves. 

For a 58 year old man.  I a healthier than most people in my age range.   I dont drink, smoke, do drugs.  I get 7-8 hours sleep a night.  I eat healthy, exercise, and read. 

LOL...some say i have turned into a hippy.  Which i guess is ok with me if they think that.  I just wish people would ask "why"? and not just assume.