its funny how the epoch times claims to be independent but is a right-leaning newspaper.
this is off topic
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Marie-AnneLiz wrote:
Confused-psyduck a écrit :
The thing is, in the mind of too many westerners China is the same as it was in the 80s, and medias do not make a great job at making people See how things changed. The western Medias You cherish, doesn't matter If they are left wing or right wing medias, actually have their own agenda as well. I am not saying Chinese Medias are better, I once was interviewed and Everything that was published afterwards was completely different from what I said, but, keep an open mind about the fact that western Medias are not flawless either.
I have had the opportunity to meet many foreigners here, and You know, we almost all have a shared feeling which is that we do not want to leave China. So many foreigners are telling me that their one single dream is to stay here, because the people are the nicest they've met, they feel free (I even had a french girl telling me she feels more free in China than in France), Because we have great opportunities to find well paid jobs and so many things. Chinese people have gotten richer, and there are no beggars in the street. Also they have received the influence of the west and now most people actually have the same kind of life we can in occidental countries. Interestingly enough, what we See on the papers on the west is that the average Chinese guy is forced into working 24/24 in some company, they get their IDs taken away, they can't See their families etc... but really If You'd been living here You'd realise how happy Chinese people are, and that those "extreme workers" are nowhere to be seen.
You can chose to think that's propaganda and live in the bubble that was created by the so called best western Medias, or You can chose to trust me, Just a little bit, since I live here, am fluent in the language.
ps: I am sorry for the rant, that was unrelated to COVID19. But, it is really saddening to see how wrong most westerners are concerning the actual situation in modern China.
Just go outside the big cities in China and the health care system ia at best 3/10 in France it's 8.5/10
Just talk about the discrimination against the millions of the Uyghur minority. Since 2015, it has been estimated that over a million Uyghurs (approximately 1 in 10) have been detained in Xinjiang re-education camps.
Ejem, of course, France is heaven on earth, isn´t it? Look what I found about France. And it was published on a western media, not a Chinese one.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1272566/emmanuel-macron-news-protest-riots-france-coronavirus-latest-lockdown-paris-riot-police
May 9, 2020
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#944
congrandolor a écrit :
Marie-AnneLiz wrote:
Confused-psyduck a écrit :
The thing is, in the mind of too many westerners China is the same as it was in the 80s, and medias do not make a great job at making people See how things changed. The western Medias You cherish, doesn't matter If they are left wing or right wing medias, actually have their own agenda as well. I am not saying Chinese Medias are better, I once was interviewed and Everything that was published afterwards was completely different from what I said, but, keep an open mind about the fact that western Medias are not flawless either.
I have had the opportunity to meet many foreigners here, and You know, we almost all have a shared feeling which is that we do not want to leave China. So many foreigners are telling me that their one single dream is to stay here, because the people are the nicest they've met, they feel free (I even had a french girl telling me she feels more free in China than in France), Because we have great opportunities to find well paid jobs and so many things. Chinese people have gotten richer, and there are no beggars in the street. Also they have received the influence of the west and now most people actually have the same kind of life we can in occidental countries. Interestingly enough, what we See on the papers on the west is that the average Chinese guy is forced into working 24/24 in some company, they get their IDs taken away, they can't See their families etc... but really If You'd been living here You'd realise how happy Chinese people are, and that those "extreme workers" are nowhere to be seen.
You can chose to think that's propaganda and live in the bubble that was created by the so called best western Medias, or You can chose to trust me, Just a little bit, since I live here, am fluent in the language.
ps: I am sorry for the rant, that was unrelated to COVID19. But, it is really saddening to see how wrong most westerners are concerning the actual situation in modern China.
Just go outside the big cities in China and the health care system ia at best 3/10 in France it's 8.5/10
Just talk about the discrimination against the millions of the Uyghur minority. Since 2015, it has been estimated that over a million Uyghurs (approximately 1 in 10) have been detained in Xinjiang re-education camps.
Ejem, of course, France is heaven on earth, isn´t it? Look what I found about France. And it was published on a western media, not a Chinese one.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1272566/emmanuel-macron-news-protest-riots-france-coronavirus-latest-lockdown-paris-riot-police
That is what a democracy look like;i guess you prefer a dictatorship?
Let's get back to the outbreak, please. There's no country on the planet that is either heaven or hell. Whether you believe in them or not those concepts are designed to be extremes unattainable by mankind.
yes.
btickler wrote:
Let's get back to the outbreak, please. There's no country on the planet that is either heaven or hell. Whether you believe in them or not those concepts are designed to be extremes unattainable by mankind.
Sure. I'll come back if there is any change here that is worth posting.
Those who do not pay attention to history are doomed to repeat it:
https://news.yahoo.com/surprisingly-relevant-vintage-ads-show-204403770.html
May 10, 2020
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#949
when will this world get rid of coronavirus and that day I will sleep happily!
All very interesting.May I commend you to read my thread "Pay Tribute" in the off topic section
Lest we forget!
May 10, 2020
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#952
May 10, 2020
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#953
New guidance released in the UK today. The ubiquitous 'stay at home' slogan has been replaced by 'stay alert' to much general amusement. Got to keep your eyes peeled for the microscopic virus... Basically though the guidelines are the same - work from home if you can, social distance in public, stay home as much as possible, limit social contact.
May 10, 2020
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#954
Fears of a deadly COVID-19 second wave if lockdown is lifted too early :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGghR1nmeQU
May 10, 2020
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#955
Marie-AnneLiz wrote:
Trump meets with military leaders. No one wears a mask:
Yeah I saw this
May 10, 2020
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#956
Doctor_lover_pet wrote:
when will this world get rid of coronavirus and that day I will sleep happily!
very disgusting virus
China made vivid
China made covid virus !!
Bye.
Pandemic profiteers:
https://news.yahoo.com/virus-conspiracists-elevate-champion-160543349.html
I guess the fact that marginal/discredited scientists would try to do stuff like this is inevitable...the more worrying part is how fearful and grasping the general public is for literally any explanation that comforts them.
For those that may have been watching/reading about the "Plandemic" conspiracy theory:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWpjc1QZg84
The thing is, in the mind of too many westerners China is the same as it was in the 80s, and medias do not make a great job at making people See how things changed. The western Medias You cherish, doesn't matter If they are left wing or right wing medias, actually have their own agenda as well. I am not saying Chinese Medias are better, I once was interviewed and Everything that was published afterwards was completely different from what I said, but, keep an open mind about the fact that western Medias are not flawless either.
I have had the opportunity to meet many foreigners here, and You know, we almost all have a shared feeling which is that we do not want to leave China. So many foreigners are telling me that their one single dream is to stay here, because the people are the nicest they've met, they feel free (I even had a french girl telling me she feels more free in China than in France), Because we have great opportunities to find well paid jobs and so many things. Chinese people have gotten richer, and there are no beggars in the street. Also they have received the influence of the west and now most people actually have the same kind of life we can in occidental countries. Interestingly enough, what we See on the papers on the west is that the average Chinese guy is forced into working 24/24 in some company, they get their IDs taken away, they can't See their families etc... but really If You'd been living here You'd realise how happy Chinese people are, and that those "extreme workers" are nowhere to be seen.
You can chose to think that's propaganda and live in the bubble that was created by the so called best western Medias, or You can chose to trust me, Just a little bit, since I live here, am fluent in the language.
ps: I am sorry for the rant, that was unrelated to COVID19. But, it is really saddening to see how wrong most westerners are concerning the actual situation in modern China.
And let's not talk about the pollution and the destruction of the land ans about the police state!
And the medias are 100% under the control of the CCP.