Covid-19 Discussion (moderated)

Are you saying that you know more than most of the Experts to Know exactly how not to overwhelmed the healthcare system and to protect in the Long term the health of the peoples in your country?

Well, you kinda got that right...wrong target, though.

You made a claim of zero college athletes, which was fairly immediately refuted.  So now you claim there's 1 and no more and use that as your "support".  It's not up to us to do your homework and keep disproving any baseless claim you'd like to make...

"There are aliens.  Read about Area 51.."

"There are no aliens"

"Here's a link to a story"

"Here's a link to that story being debunked"

"Here's another link to another story"

"Here's why that story is also BS"

"Well, prove to me that all the stories are not credible"  

"Not our job.  All we have to do is refute your initial premise, at which point it's up to you to prove it out, not retreat 1 inch at a time and try to make us refute every new line in the sand you draw for your imaginary winning argument ..."

As for the premise that there's no need to quarantine everyone, I will point you towards the copious amounts of news stories and articles showing how the initial spread occurred, how the quarantine measures slowed the spread significantly, how people said "okay, should be fine now", reopened a bunch of stuff, then immediately saw a rocketing rate of new cases, heading towards 100,000 a day, how a second round of lockdowns has held it to 75,000-ish cases a day, etc.

The rate of spread directly correlates to the amount of measures enforced.  Every push for "moving on" results in new spikes.  Only the willfully ignorant cannot see that by now.  Unfortunately, that's a tremendously large group in this country.

Are you really in good faith? 

They are not "quarantined", they are not playing a sport in front of spectators.  A form of competitive leisure activity, and entirely optional for society to engage in, with a dubious value during the outbreak.  Big difference.

You cannot have a gathering of 500 people at your house.  Are you quarantined?

You know that around 40% of the ill peoples are asymptomatic right?

And most of all these athlete are not even tested?

If everyone was tested many times every day it would be a lot safer.

But the available testing now is way too slow and inaccurate and cost a lot.

Next year it should be a lot better with a Good vaccine and faster and cheap tests.

uhhh...maybe for the safety of all involved ?...make sense ??

...and it seems that skepticism has overcome ur dna (i wonder how THAT happened ??)

u dont hafta trust anyone if u dont wanna. and they dont need to waste their time giving a detailed explanation either. thats why theres legislative bodies within our borders and thats called governance. now. u can warm to that...or move lol !

well, since ur so smart, explain to the classroom who is and who isnt healthy. and do ur darndest to keep in mind the word 'asymptomatic'.

How many total cases for the 0-24 age group?  How many people at higher risk did those people infect?  Your argument makes no sense.  If a disease emerged that never harmed people with, say,  Tourette's Syndrome, but it killed everyone else who came within 25 yards of a carrier 95% of the time, should those people with Tourette's be "free" to live their lives as they please and just kill everybody?

Not being harmed yourself does not allow for freedom from quarantine if you are a carrier.  It sounds to me like your argument is with the government.  If there was 100% testing of everyone in the country and a 15 minutes test on demand going forward (totally possible by this point in the outbreak if the US hadn't futzed around pretending it wasn't serious), then you could possibly watch your college sports .

It's not about the death rate for the peoples from 0 to 24;it's about getting sick and Transmitting the virus to other,one asymptomatic person can easily infect 65 other.

And those 65 can infect 650 and after one month you have 6500 that are infected...

And then your health care system is overwhelmed and now Thousands more  peoples are going to get sick because it's completely out of control!

When was the last time that the flu killed 170 000 peoples in the USA in less than 6 months?

Have you heard of the word vaccine?

Look at the number of peoples that didn't act responsibly in the last few months?

It's obvious witch states has the most active cases.

The state were they did are a lot better.

No we agree 100%;IF most peoples were acting in the same way you and me are we wouldn't need the Big Stick to Force the irresponsable peoples to behave and we know wich president and governor were really irresponsible too.

Yep, "liberal states creating panic, riots...", that's it you found your solution, what about saying to the people that the virus is just a little flu and that healthy people have very little chances of dying of it? Yes? Also, let's not quarantine people because the constitution explicitly says that people are free to what they want. We cannot test everyone, so people would just spread the virus unknowingly, but at least everyone would be free, and free to spread the virus as well! That sounds like a marvelous idea. I wish liberals thought about it earlier, I also wish that China had not been locked down, so that we could have enjoyed more freedom when COVID19 was here! Well, more people would have caught and spread the virus, but at least we would have been free to do exactly as we wish!

Is that what you are saying? That sounds like a bright idea, common folks sure know a lot more about the virus than top health experts, duh.

Maybe because they can infect and kill their parents and grandparents?

I'm pretty sure nobody here cares if you've blocked them.  Good thing you have that dog.

cant take it ?...lol !!

i would venture that u live in eastern washington state ?...lol ! 

Well, this obviously isn't going anywhere, so let's just make it five down...bye.