Covid19 and chess around the World!

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hoodoothere
btickler wrote:
hoodoothere wrote:
lfPatriotGames wrote:
Abhinav0121 wrote:
ericthatwho wrote:

Just think the covid vaccine is dead covid cells (?) So get vaccinated and get covid

The vaccines currently being developed by Pfizer and Moderna use a new vaccine formula with Messenger RNA (mRNA) to introduce immunity in the human body. 

They are not like the traditional vaccines for flu which use partially dead organisms to induce immunity. 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/covid-vaccine-ingredients-pfizer-moderna-fda-b1767663.html

How very, very interesting. I just might wait a little longer than 2 years. 

Yeah, read up more on the vaccine, and this is the first one that is based on messenger RNA (mRNA). Plus there is a rumor?...that Bill Gates funds Moderna and that Moderna never developed a vaccine at all before? They are named after mRNA, and only formed in 2010. I saw something on Facebook by a Molecular Biologist, that seems to have been quickly removed, don't see it anymore. He was warning that mRNA has the potential to permanently alter human DNA. If that is true, for what purpose? Maybe make us more passive? dumb us down? Who knows?

Please just stop with the stupid Bill Gates theories.  If he wanted to alter human DNA, he could do it...without any vaccine.  *So could you*.  It's called CRISPR, and there's no laws about it yet, you can buy it on the Internet.  Hobbyists are already trying to create glow in the dark dogs, etc. by mixing DNA from various species.  I'm actually surprised that conspiracy theorists have been too ignorant and behind in technology to even pick up on CRISPR, given that even Netflix has done a documentary on the dangers of it being unregulated currently.

Anyone on the planet can introduce CRISPR RNA into any water supply they can get access to and alter DNA for every living thing drinking that water.  It can be made airborne.  Worse, CRISPR can be made recursive, in the sense that CRISPR can contain itself and ergo replicate itself, and can thus spread worldwide indirectly from the initial source(s).  When it splices itself into someone's DNA, that splice it can contain another copy of CRISPR.

So, why bother creating or piggybacking on a pandemic?  Needlessly complicated and prone to discovery.  You can buy a CRISPR kit for $65 plus shipping.  It doesn't take a Bill Gates or a worldwide virus to pull that off.  You can bet threats are coming in this arena, but it will be groups of radicals with cheap CRISPR kits making it happen, not the man who wants to build a better toilet for humanity.

Conspiracy theorists really need to apply to Occam's Razor.  It kills 80% of their theories out of the gate (or Gates).

Any decent molecular biologist knows about CRISPR already and hopefully realizes that using a vaccine to deliver any gene-altering agent doesn't really make sense given how easily it could be done without going to all that trouble.

I don't do conspiracy theories, I only deal in facts. My understanding is that mRNA will die quickly after produced and has to be chilled. Dumping it in a reservoir is a waste of time because it will die/become impotent or whatever you prefer quickly. Will be either eaten by a microbe or expire over a short period of time. Even if viable the dilution factors are astronomical when something is dumped in a reservoir. Also before the water is delivered to you house it is Chlorinated. Not going to work, no way, no how. Delivering it directly into a human body is another matter. Maybe in a water cooler or something, but exposure would be limited. You really need to inject it and for that it takes a willing subject; well most of the time unless you are a spy or something. All this assumes that you have bio-engineering experience and know what the target gene does. It is currently unknown what most of the genes do but it is being worked on and someday we may actually know what most or all do.

DiogenesDue
hoodoothere wrote:

I don't do conspiracy theories, I only deal in facts. My understanding is that mRNA will die quickly after produced and has to be chilled. Dumping it in a reservoir is a waste of time because it will die/become impotent or whatever you prefer quickly. Will be either eaten by a microbe or expire over a short period of time. Even if viable the dilution factors are astronomical when something is dumped in a reservoir. Also before the water is delivered to you house it is Chlorinated. Not going to work, no way, no how. Delivering it directly into a human body is another matter. Maybe in a water cooler or something, but exposure would be limited. You really need to inject it and for that it takes a willing subject; well most of the time unless you are a spy or something. All this assumes that you have bio-engineering experience and know what the target gene does. It is currently unknown what most of the genes do but it is being worked on and someday we may actually know what most or all do.

CRISPR permanently alters the genome and passes down through reproduction afterwards, so diluted or not, it will do the job eventually if you release it into the wild.  Nobody would know they have it, if you didn't want them to.  That's not really the point, though.  The point is that the Bill Gates conspiracy theory re: microchipping everyone in the world is ridiculous.  It was already ridiculous to start with wink.png...but the existence of things like CRISPR makes it more ridiculous.

If you only deal in facts, then you obviously cannot be touting the Bill Gates stuff...because there's no evidence of any of it....

MovedtoLiches
Anyone else watch the El Paso doctor taking his Covid vaccine, from an empty syringe?
lfPatriotGames
AadalamVa wrote:

1st off, some people here have no idea whatsoever about how the votes are counted! Pity

2nd, the person dying (having Covid) is counted as Covid death as this has accelerated the death, which otherwise would not have resulted in death.

It is really that hard to understand such basic things?

Dying of a car crash, while having covid, does not accelerate the death. I understand why they call all deaths covid deaths, even when the cause of death is something else. I just don't agree with it. 

lfPatriotGames
ExploringWA wrote:
Anyone else watch the El Paso doctor taking his Covid vaccine, from an empty syringe?

No. But sometimes nothing is better than something. 

lfPatriotGames
ExploringWA wrote:
Anyone else watch the El Paso doctor taking his Covid vaccine, from an empty syringe?

OK, I did see it. It's a little confusing though. Everyone is clapping. Are they clapping because the person administering the shot didn't know there was nothing in it? Are they clapping because the nurse who got the shot got nothing? Maybe someone told a funny joke off camera. It doesnt explain why everyone is clapping. 

MovedtoLiches
lfPatriotGames wrote:
ExploringWA wrote:
Anyone else watch the El Paso doctor taking his Covid vaccine, from an empty syringe?

OK, I did see it. It's a little confusing though. Everyone is clapping. Are they clapping because the person administering the shot didn't know there was nothing in it? Are they clapping because the nurse who got the shot got nothing? Maybe someone told a funny joke off camera. It doesnt explain why everyone is clapping. 

Change your filter. Think of it as a staged reality show. 

AadalamVa
lfPatriotGames wrote:
AadalamVa wrote:

1st off, some people here have no idea whatsoever about how the votes are counted! Pity

2nd, the person dying (having Covid) is counted as Covid death as this has accelerated the death, which otherwise would not have resulted in death.

It is really that hard to understand such basic things?

Dying of a car crash, while having covid, does not accelerate the death. I understand why they call all deaths covid deaths, even when the cause of death is something else. I just don't agree with it. 

I'm talking about a person having other co morbidities. Understand the concept 1st then everything will fall in place. 

lfPatriotGames
AadalamVa wrote:
lfPatriotGames wrote:
AadalamVa wrote:

1st off, some people here have no idea whatsoever about how the votes are counted! Pity

2nd, the person dying (having Covid) is counted as Covid death as this has accelerated the death, which otherwise would not have resulted in death.

It is really that hard to understand such basic things?

Dying of a car crash, while having covid, does not accelerate the death. I understand why they call all deaths covid deaths, even when the cause of death is something else. I just don't agree with it. 

I'm talking about a person having other co morbidities. Understand the concept 1st then everything will fall in place. 

Death by car crash is a comorbidity. It's say it's the only morbidity, but here they call it a comorbidity. Death by anything else, as long as you have the covid, is a comorbidity. Again I understand why they do it, I just don't agree with it. 

PetraGompa

About vaccine on a pro : https://twitter.com/Luke4Tech/status/1339755720959508481

AadalamVa
lfPatriotGames wrote:
AadalamVa wrote:
lfPatriotGames wrote:
AadalamVa wrote:

1st off, some people here have no idea whatsoever about how the votes are counted! Pity

2nd, the person dying (having Covid) is counted as Covid death as this has accelerated the death, which otherwise would not have resulted in death.

It is really that hard to understand such basic things?

Dying of a car crash, while having covid, does not accelerate the death. I understand why they call all deaths covid deaths, even when the cause of death is something else. I just don't agree with it. 

I'm talking about a person having other co morbidities. Understand the concept 1st then everything will fall in place. 

Death by car crash is a comorbidity. It's say it's the only morbidity, but here they call it a comorbidity. Death by anything else, as long as you have the covid, is a comorbidity. Again I understand why they do it, I just don't agree with it. 

Learn what Comorbidity is

AadalamVa

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lfPatriotGames
AadalamVa wrote:
lfPatriotGames wrote:
AadalamVa wrote:
lfPatriotGames wrote:
AadalamVa wrote:

1st off, some people here have no idea whatsoever about how the votes are counted! Pity

2nd, the person dying (having Covid) is counted as Covid death as this has accelerated the death, which otherwise would not have resulted in death.

It is really that hard to understand such basic things?

Dying of a car crash, while having covid, does not accelerate the death. I understand why they call all deaths covid deaths, even when the cause of death is something else. I just don't agree with it. 

I'm talking about a person having other co morbidities. Understand the concept 1st then everything will fall in place. 

Death by car crash is a comorbidity. It's say it's the only morbidity, but here they call it a comorbidity. Death by anything else, as long as you have the covid, is a comorbidity. Again I understand why they do it, I just don't agree with it. 

Learn what Comorbidity is

I know what comorbidity is. It's having multiple medical conditions at the same time. Perhaps our state leadership should learn what it is. They are the ones doing the counting. Any cause of death is listed as covid regardless of what the cause is, if the person also has covid. Injuries suffered in a car crash, like it or not, is a medical condition. 

Usually comorbidity is considered an illness of some kind, but it can include other medical conditions. Our leadership has chosen the latter definition. So for the purposes of this conversation I will use that definition too, since that's what is used to tally the numbers. If you don't like their definition, you are free to call them and voice your concern. 

AadalamVa

Wear masks and keep safe, there is a new strain to the Covid and better be safe

AadalamVa

Covid: WHO in 'close contact' with UK over new virus variant

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-55382212

PetraGompa

 A Novel : The Masque of the Red Death

by Edgar Allan Poe

MovedtoLiches
Waiting on results from my 3rd Covid test. Whatever I have, this sucks.
MovedtoLiches
I’d take 20 needles before choosing to have my nasal cavity swabbed. It is literal torture.
lfPatriotGames
ExploringWA wrote:
Waiting on results from my 3rd Covid test. Whatever I have, this sucks.

I gave blood a week ago. They said it would take two weeks to get my antibody test results. I've never taken a covid test though. Pretty sure my son has covid right now, but he's feeling a lot better today. 

MovedtoLiches
lfPatriotGames wrote:
ExploringWA wrote:
Waiting on results from my 3rd Covid test. Whatever I have, this sucks.

I gave blood a week ago. They said it would take two weeks to get my antibody test results. I've never taken a covid test though. Pretty sure my son has covid right now, but he's feeling a lot better today. 

I had to quit giving blood in 1997. They get all funny when a person goes hypoxic, passes out, and quits breathing. 

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