Denial of Truth
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Jun 7, 2017
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You cannot logically ascertain a description of reality because logic is simply a convention. You have all been tickled to believe that perception defines reality. You're wrong. Reality is an illusion, since no single thing can make an "absolute" claim about what is/isn't real. Nothing. Perception is also an illusion. All men have been tickled since they went to kindergarten, learning to separate "truth" from "fiction" as if real discernible differences actually exist. In a reverse reality, morality would be flip flopped. Doing bad would be the right thing. Everybody would be a practicing Atheist. The Jews would have won and the Germans would be owning all the money as we speak. Truth and fiction are inseparable, so you cannot say that any "absolute truth" exists. Nobody has modelled the Universe, or can prove/disprove the existence of God, since arguments become more complex overlappingly. I deny the notion of a glass convention of biased versions of what is considered "Truth" and that's that.
Religious discussion is not acceptable in the main forums.
Jun 7, 2017
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RonaldJosephCote wrote:
This is not a Religious Discussion
Religious discussion is not acceptable in the main forums.
Jun 7, 2017
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Cubronzo wrote:
You cannot logically ascertain a description of reality because logic is simply a convention. You have all been tickled to believe that perception defines reality. You're wrong. Reality is an illusion, since no single thing can make an "absolute" claim about what is/isn't real. Nothing. Perception is also an illusion. All men have been tickled since they went to kindergarten, learning to separate "truth" from "fiction" as if real discernible differences actually exist. In a reverse reality, morality would be flip flopped. Doing bad would be the right thing. Everybody would be a practicing Atheist. The Jews would have won and the Germans would be owning all the money as we speak. Truth and fiction are inseparable, so you cannot say that any "absolute truth" exists. Nobody has modelled the Universe, or can prove/disprove the existence of God, since arguments become more complex overlappingly. I deny the notion of a glass convention of biased versions of what is considered "Truth" and that's that.
The court jester is not funny. 
" Nobody has modelled the Universe, or can prove/disprove the existence of God,"
Once an argument denies coherence it becomes incoherent.
RonaldJosephCote wrote:
Am I allowed on the forum topic then?
" Nobody has modelled the Universe, or can prove/disprove the existence of God,"
I deny the existence of tomorrow because it hasn't gotten here yet, but I digress. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. 
Special Agent Fox Mulder: When convention and science offer us no answers, might we not finally turn to the fantastic as a plausibility?
Special Agent Dana Scully: What I find fantastic is any notion that there are answers beyond the realm of science. The answers are there. You just have to know where to look.
Jun 8, 2017
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#11
" you cannot say that any "absolute truth" exists"
Well, sounds interresting, but... If that is true, then, there is a ONE absolute truth at least. The absolute truth that "absolute truth" don't exist. Or, if it's not an absolute truth, since "absolute truth" don't exist, it means then, that absolute truth do exist somewhere, even if only one such truth.
So, yes, logically I can and actually have got no other choice than to claim "absolute truth" does exist.
No?
Jun 8, 2017
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#12
OP try not to make these guys think, it makes them flip and then staff has to lock the thread. Having said that, you might try thinking less yourself.
Cubronzo wrote:
You cannot logically ascertain a description of reality because logic is simply a convention. You have all been tickled to believe that perception defines reality. You're wrong. Reality is an illusion, since no single thing can make an "absolute" claim about what is/isn't real. Nothing. Perception is also an illusion. All men have been tickled since they went to kindergarten, learning to separate "truth" from "fiction" as if real discernible differences actually exist. In a reverse reality, morality would be flip flopped. Doing bad would be the right thing. Everybody would be a practicing Atheist. The Jews would have won and the Germans would be owning all the money as we speak. Truth and fiction are inseparable, so you cannot say that any "absolute truth" exists. Nobody has modelled the Universe, or can prove/disprove the existence of God, since arguments become more complex overlappingly. I deny the notion of a glass convention of biased versions of what is considered "Truth" and that's that.
Black magic is working in arbitrarily (irregular) because it was directly under god control and not as regular as natural laws.Sometimes it works,sometimes not.
RonaldJosephCote wrote:
When science offers us no answers and religion makes assumptions, let us turn then to the world of mathematical metaphysics.
Special Agent Fox Mulder: When convention and science offer us no answers, might we not finally turn to the fantastic as a plausibility?
Special Agent Dana Scully: What I find fantastic is any notion that there are answers beyond the realm of science. The answers are there. You just have to know where to look.
Jun 8, 2017
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ChumpDavis123 wrote:
ChumpDavis123 wrote: RonaldJosephCote wrote:Special Agent Fox Mulder: When convention and science offer us no answers, might we not finally turn to the fantastic as a plausibility?Special Agent Dana Scully: What I find fantastic is any notion that there are answers beyond the realm of science. The answers are there. You just have to know where to look.When science offers us no answers and religion makes assumptions, let us turn then to the world of mathematical metaphysics.
RonaldJosephCote wrote:
When science offers us no answers and religion makes assumptions, let us turn then to the world of mathematical metaphysics.
Special Agent Fox Mulder: When convention and science offer us no answers, might we not finally turn to the fantastic as a plausibility?
Special Agent Dana Scully: What I find fantastic is any notion that there are answers beyond the realm of science. The answers are there. You just have to know where to look.
The only way to make sense of things is to sense it so we must take what we sense to be real
Jun 8, 2017
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#17
I'm a Postmodernist Thinker. Logic is most definitely a convention. Even if logic "has to exist" that is a logical argument, but nobody has explained how logic works.
We can only perceive what we do through our senses. There is no other way. So we must assume that what we perceive is the true reality
Language is a mathematical structure and the real Chris Langan would be disappointed with your arguments.