Does True Randomness Actually Exist? ( ^&*#^%$&#% )

alotta smart ppl have tried2explain consciousness (& thought) & how it affects QM. there may be a bridge a proof for the FW dodos like me. 

I wouldn’t recommend doing so. If it has been awhile just purchase a new bow string, it isn’t worth taking a chance. Even a small amount of tension when released (snapped bow string) can be quite harmful to you and anyone near you. Plus, if you have an arrow knocked and it prematurely releases due to a snapped bow string during drawback, where will the arrow go? 

Back to the OP…

I’m wondering how some of you might consider the central limit theory in this discussion. 

Okay, I’ll bite. I’m familiar with the zener diode in shunt trip breakers but not seeing the correlation to free will. Please explain.

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So I silently wonder…

What do I hold sooo sacred for w/out it I could not find tomorrow ?

What is so overpowering that to die for I would be ready ?

What patiently awaits at the back of our endless eyes ?

What sets our spirit under the spell of such hope & dream ?  

And so I silently wonder…

…consciousness.

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(tho i guess i coulda said QM too - lol !) 

why are you dogging Sabine?

I'm curious if anyone else can see a problem with the following endorsement..

"Of course, physics can’t falsify conspiracies like the one of the movie The Matrix; and some interpretations of quantum physics invoke unobservable fields or multiple universes to do away with ultimate randomness. But under the reasonable assumption that one has access only to the information observable in our universe, all agree that some events are intrinsically unpredictable."

"All rational people working from a scientific perspective would agree."

I know I know.. you're the smartest man alive,  therefor all the experts with their silly phd's and Nobel prizes should be dismissed. makes sense. you're a funny man.

opti, from an objective point of view dismissing all the respectful, extremely knowledgeable experts in the field as an "attention seekers" and "irrationals" just doesn't fly well. sorry. 

and I don't think some events are unpredictable. I know for a fact that they are. but they are not neccerely undetermined. of course you can make your own definitions and go on and on, but don’t be surprised if it makes me giggle.

“You've pretty clearly stated that you believe in determinism.”

nahh. i believe in objectivity.

i have nothing but respect for you when you’re being objective.

@Optimissed drew attention to why I expressed the notion of randomness in terms of incompleteness of information rather than (as I had before) in terms of predictability. This is related to the fact that randomness is conditional in the sense that it depends on the information you have, strongly influenced by where you are in space-time.

An event may be random to someone even when it is in their past light cone if they lack the information that determines it.

Determinism is about the relationship between information in a universal way (not dependent on anything local, like a specific observer at a specific time).  A novel way to express it is that there is never any new information: all information is determined by information at a strictly earlier time. [Of course, this is about a model, since our Universe is not like that].

But the many worlds interpretation (Everett interpretation) of quantum mechanics is deterministic in the sense that given a slice of the Multiverse, all the future of the Multiverse is determined - it's just that those of us in it never know what branch we are going to find ourselves in.

There is a weird philosophical point here.

• To simplify the Multiverse, there is a person in the Multiverse who is about to toss a coin. He says "I do not know if this coin will come up heads or tails". 
• A physicist says "I know the coin will come up heads in one branch and tails in another".
• Later there is one copy of the person who tossed the coin who says "the coin came up heads - I did not know it would do that" and another who says "the coin came up tails - I did not know it was going to do that".

talking abt random ? have u seen btc today ?...i heard s/o say that feces has finally hit the propeller. 

dont mind me. just copy-pasting...but it seems like SD is alive & kicking (tho still in the womb). And plz note ?...Sabine isnt claiming its origin.

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In quantum mechanics Superdeterminism is a loophole in Bell's theorem. A hidden variables theory which is SD...can fulfill Bell's notion of local causality and still violate the inequalities derived from Bell's theorem.

The first superdeterministic hidden variables model was put forward by Carl H. Brans in 1988. Another model was proposed in 2010 by Michael Hall.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superdeterminism

ppl that bot it w/ borrowed $ probably have hanky in hand right now...dabbing their 4head.

opti ?...u seem to know alot abt it. could u plz explain to me how by having it will help me ?...as it seems no diff than a credit card. help me u/s ?

maybe its place is that a person can own a exchange currency that roller coasters around. that way if i bought some clothes w/ it today i might wake up tomorrow & find out that i got them for free. lotsa ppl like to gamble & this seems like a unique way a doing so. 

Two traders' phrases:

"Catching a falling knife"

"Dead cat bounce"

it exists.

Just try google dice!