Does True Randomness Actually Exist? ( ^&*#^%$&#% )

I was sure he would. Wonder what's next too. I'd enjoy it slightly more if he responded and didn't act like a badly programmed wisdombot.

maybe king intention is that we think about these concepts for ourselves? he seem to get a lot of satisfaction from the snarky comments trying to analyze him.. lol

Trying to?

When you post a lot of platitudinous stuff like that and expect it should be either accurate or new to people, you should take into account that you might seem just a bit ridiculous. It bears no relationship to the subject matter.

Oh, and youthful vigour can be very irreverent and I've still a lot of it left. Can't have it both ways.

I wonder what's comin' next.

AA ??

Simply look at kings friends list and make ur own decision about his intent.(59 - 50+ with sexy female pics, but a couple of males from this thread) He’s seen constantly trying to make friends with any pretty skirt in other threads - despite objections of his persistence and being asked politely to stop.

The point is he’s off topic. The OP disappeared. He has found a thread to spread his agenda with apparently no objection from any of you. Discussion of randomness has been hijacked. Outta here for good with this continued nonsense

8 posts in a row - all in bold face text taking up the entire page requiring endless scrolling. Someone new tuning in and participating on the posted topic? Never happen. You few fools enjoy.

pleez MM. no offense. but i kinda like a liberated thread. relevant means wut ? esp w/ sucha abstract Off Topic like TR. sure. we tide in and out. but is that so wrongful ? i mean is it worth catalyzing a stroke over ?

letchur heart beat in peace. it'll thank u in the morning...n'dont forget ur bowl a oatmeal  .

**Someone new tuning in and participating on the posted topic?**

I guess, you were talking 'bout me since I posted right after king. Actually, I've been here all along, and usually I don't post here cuz I don't have anything constructive to contribute~ just keep my lips zipped most of the time.  

I do follow other threads in a similar fashion-- the science of biological evolution & the global warming one. I just read the posts and links in those threads without ever posting in them. Kinda like a shadow...

Quite honestly, I tried to engage him and he refused to be drawn, which is a bit trollish, and so I was watching to see if anything interesting would come of it but the platitudes just became worse. I was quite receptive at first without actually reading much of the stuff he put up because it was all the same and it got worse. And more and more inaccurate.

I, too, have virtually nothing constructive to contribute, especially since this forum's diverted from the OP's subject. Oh well.

Opti, silver and Elroch are the only male members on his friends list. All others are pics of pretty shirts. He is constantly stalking woman in the threads where I’ve seen. Never engaging in discussion but thinking he’s impressing the ladies with platitudes. I don’t respect such behavior combined with the total disrespect of hacking this thread. Some look the other way, don’t care while others (unbelievably) give encouragement . It’s not that they are interested in the writing but merely to lend support of bad trolling.

A shame as there are traces of new and perhaps interesting posts being made on topic. Seen a new  contributor of the last month since king has been here ? No. Nobody would invest with the personal agenda on display.

...and s/t else that bothers me. why do they allow punt in american football ? seems not right. i mean why would they waste a offensive play to make a defensive one ? doesnt make sense.

"..since this forum's diverted from the OP's subject. Oh well."

i think that if you take QM for face value and strip it from all interpretations, beliefs, and other magical features we apply to it, youll end up with a big question mark about the true behavior of the physical world (particles). and if you believe that causality is absolute, i cant see any good reason to think that QM is not deterministic.

because this concept goes against the grain of everything we've been told about QM, i think its a good idea for me to pause here, and see how it goes. (and no. this doesn't mean that i believe in determinism)

Oh am I on it? That's nice. I had no idea.

No I'm not on his friends' list. Whatever made you think I was on it?

The concept is simplistic- elegant. 
Simplicity by is nature hides/conceals it’s own nature. 
The concept that QM displays deterministic properties by definition- and that determinism is a false concept - works for me. In fact been saying this all along. 
The idea is not contradictory.

You were on his list Opti, same for Elroch. Gone now. At one time you must have unwittingly given permission. The dude has an agenda and plays all sorts of sneaky games. Anyway enough- hopefully he’s gone.

Using an analogy - the disappearing handkerchief illusion.

Show the trick for people over a very young age and if it’s not figured out straight away where the h/c went  (extremely rare)- they will never figure it out in a lifetime of thought. Their thought processes are to well conditioned of how the world works.

Show the trick to 5/6 year olds and quite a few instantly can provide the answer. They did not actually “see” the effect - but intuitively know where it is - as there exists but a single possibility.

That possibility is so simplistic in its nature that conditioned logic never sees the light.

"The concept is simplistic- elegant."

i think its more than that.. its kinda factual. and thats what set it apart from the bias concepts. but the real problem is that if matter behave deterministically, and you believe in matterialsm, naturalism, or whatever(the belief that life=matter=QM systems), then there's basically no escape from determinism. 

to me this belief deviate way too far from our human experience.

Q.. i saw this guy and he was holding things in the air.. kinda like his hands have magnetism or whatever. hows he doing it? i couldn't see any 'invisible lines' attached to it, and he was right in front of me, with short sleeves

Hey ! I practically spelled out the solution. (But I’d make a small wager you had prior knowledge) Mohammed Ali gave away the secret on national tv  in his interview with Castro But it’s highly frowned upon in magic circles to publically disclose. Perhaps you would consider editing ? 
Like I said adults can figure it out when open minded and not stuck in bias or posses a “conditioned” frame of reference.
The answer to the 2nd - you answered it yourself.

Hint: because somethings are not seen does not mean they are not there. It’s the only logical explanation- yes?

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