Does True Randomness Actually Exist? ( ^&*#^%$&#% )
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Randomness could be said to be just based of off perception. I would make the argument that true randomness
Doesn’t exist in the way we describe it as
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I happen to LUV randomness ! i mean when wuz the last time u went out for a adult beverage ? ...and got hit on ?
Can Brownian motion be charted in advance?
I feel as though this question ties to the assumed S_T Continuum.
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Recently I was introduced to a new and much healthier way to talk about free will by comparing it to agency. It goes something like this..
Free Will vs. Agency
Free Will
The idea that you can make choices completely independent of your past, biology, or any external forces. In other words, you could have done something different, even in the exact same situation. Most scientists believe this kind of absolute freedom probably doesn’t exist.
Agency
The ability to act based on what you believe, want, or understand, even if those beliefs and desires were shaped by your past. In other words, even if we don’t have free will, our agency/individuality gives us the capacity to shape our lives and influence the universe itself, despite the fact that our universe might be deterministic. Agency is real and demonstrable.
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Jul 21, 2025
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Uke8 wrote:
statistically If you throw a dice 12 million times it will fall 2m times on each # right?
No, actually. You're assuming that the dice is a perfectly symmetrical cube, which your dice definitely is not.
Even if it were perfectly symmetrical the average would only *approach* 1/12 for each side, but not be so exactly.
Sargon_Three wrote:
Uke8 wrote:
statistically If you throw a dice 12 million times it will fall 2m times on each # right?
No, actually. You're assuming that the dice is a perfectly symmetrical cube, which your dice definitely is not.
Even if it were perfectly symmetrical the average would only *approach* 1/12 for each side, but not be so exactly.
lol. pretty sure it just meant you’d expect around 2 mil each, not exactly. and if you really want to be pedantic? your response leaves plenty of room for corrections..
But anyways, this really has very little to do with the topic. If you keep reading the OP past the first line you quoted, you’d see that this topic is really about true randomness vs determinism, and what it implies for our life as free agents.
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from collections import Counter
import random
import time
cube = ["Snake Eye","2","3","4","5","6"]
loopy = Counter()
start = time.time()
n = 0
for _ in range (12000000):
toss_it = random.choice(cube)
loopy [toss_it] += 1
if loopy["Snake Eye"] == loopy["2"] and loopy["3"] and loopy["4"] and loopy["5"] and loopy["6"]:
n += 1
print((n), "All the Same")
print('\a')
print(loopy)
time.sleep(2)
print(f'{round((time.time()-start),2)} seconds')
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i put together this python script. on the first try i got :
1341 All the Same
Counter({'3': 2001166, '5': 2000353, '2': 2000212, 'Snake Eye': 1999671, '4': 1999443, '6': 1999155})10.3 seconds
"1341 All the Same" just means there were 1,341 times during the 12MM rolls that all (6) numbers were the same amount.
so. forget about a cube not being physically equal on all sides. we have a tada dropper !
the results for a 120MM rolls...w/ 14,532 times reaching parity during the test.
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14532 All the Same
Counter({'5': 20005449, '3': 20003987, 'Snake Eye': 20003440, '2': 19999553, '6': 19994669, '4': 19992902})
84.73 seconds
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something must be broken cause i’d expect it to be más o menos zero.
the results for a 1.20BB rolls...w/ 10,114 times reaching parity during the test.
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10114 All the Same
Counter({'3': 200014313, '2': 200013222, '6': 200009414, 'Snake Eye': 199996362, '5': 199989791, '4': 199976898})
824.6 seconds
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...or 824.6 seconds/60 = ~14 minutes
I'll run one more test....doing 12 billion rolls
it did as of this morning (my toaster).