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locked up behind bars only needs such needed actions 

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ExploringWA hat geschrieben:
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I’m not against guns. I’m just against violence. No doubt everybody in the world who owns a gun has it for a non violent purpose.

Unfortunately, the only way a bad guy with a gun can be stopped is by a good guy with a gun. One of the unfortunate realities of life.

I dont see how a gun helps u against a gun. If u get shot ur dead.U cant defend against the shot, right?

Watch the Kyle Rittenhouse videos. They very clearly show what a good guy with a gun can do against an armed angry mob of repeat violent felons and child pedos. 

a good guy with phone could do the same.

 

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i mean if there are no guns then just call the police.

I havent watched the videos though.

 

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ExploringWA I don't even think that it's worth discussing it with ole Mug. wannabeGM may be more reasonable, but I don't know.

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ExploringWA wrote:
wannabeGM21 wrote:
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TheHarbingerOfDoom wrote:
I’m not against guns. I’m just against violence. No doubt everybody in the world who owns a gun has it for a non violent purpose.

Unfortunately, the only way a bad guy with a gun can be stopped is by a good guy with a gun. One of the unfortunate realities of life.

I dont see how a gun helps u against a gun. If u get shot ur dead.U cant defend against the shot, right?

Watch the Kyle Rittenhouse videos. They very clearly show what a good guy with a gun can do against an armed angry mob of repeat violent felons and child pedos. 

umm, the kid chose to put himself in that situation. 

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ExploringWA wrote:
TheBestBeer_Root wrote:

I’m sorry but guns are pathetic and so are every weapon conceived ever.

Again, you keep making my point. 

no. you keep projecting your ignorance. that someone might not be aware of the difference between a 9mm and a .25 is 180° from knowledge about gun violence.

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ExploringWA wrote:
AlCzervik wrote:
ExploringWA wrote:
wannabeGM21 wrote:
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TheHarbingerOfDoom wrote:
I’m not against guns. I’m just against violence. No doubt everybody in the world who owns a gun has it for a non violent purpose.

Unfortunately, the only way a bad guy with a gun can be stopped is by a good guy with a gun. One of the unfortunate realities of life.

I dont see how a gun helps u against a gun. If u get shot ur dead.U cant defend against the shot, right?

Watch the Kyle Rittenhouse videos. They very clearly show what a good guy with a gun can do against an armed angry mob of repeat violent felons and child pedos. 

umm, the kid chose to put himself in that situation. 

I’m not talking about the political aspects of the situation. Purely from a self defense perspective. A relatively inexperienced teenager was able to defend himself from multiple armed assailants that were trying to kill him. Leave out the politics. During one part of the assault, he had to clear a jam while being physically assaulted. He shot and killed two assailants. He wounded a third assailant stoping certain death from a bullet to the head from a Glock 40 after clearing the jam. He was in a fight for his life and he came out alive. 

Will you please explain how a phone would have worked better than the AR15 that he utilized. I’m still of the belief that the AR was a better defensive weapon than a phone. 

did i mention politics? no. 

the child put himself in that place! your comparison of a phone to a gun is as strawman. 

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ExploringWA wrote:
wannabeGM21 wrote:
ExploringWA hat geschrieben:
wannabeGM21 wrote:
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TheHarbingerOfDoom wrote:
I’m not against guns. I’m just against violence. No doubt everybody in the world who owns a gun has it for a non violent purpose.

Unfortunately, the only way a bad guy with a gun can be stopped is by a good guy with a gun. One of the unfortunate realities of life.

I dont see how a gun helps u against a gun. If u get shot ur dead.U cant defend against the shot, right?

Watch the Kyle Rittenhouse videos. They very clearly show what a good guy with a gun can do against an armed angry mob of repeat violent felons and child pedos. 

a good guy with phone could do the same.

 

I’m curious. If a guy is holding a loaded, cocked, and ready to fire pistol to my head and he is ready to pull the trigger:  I’m not smart enough to figure out what to do with the phone. Will you please explain it to me. 

Fire first - waste him.

The best defense is a good offense.

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ExploringWA hat geschrieben:
wannabeGM21 wrote:
ExploringWA hat geschrieben:
wannabeGM21 wrote:
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TheHarbingerOfDoom wrote:
I’m not against guns. I’m just against violence. No doubt everybody in the world who owns a gun has it for a non violent purpose.

Unfortunately, the only way a bad guy with a gun can be stopped is by a good guy with a gun. One of the unfortunate realities of life.

I dont see how a gun helps u against a gun. If u get shot ur dead.U cant defend against the shot, right?

Watch the Kyle Rittenhouse videos. They very clearly show what a good guy with a gun can do against an armed angry mob of repeat violent felons and child pedos. 

a good guy with phone could do the same.

 

I’m curious. If a guy is holding a loaded, cocked, and ready to fire pistol to my head and he is ready to pull the trigger:  I’m not smart enough to figure out what to do with the phone. Will you please explain it to me. 

I meant if there are no guns then calling the Police would do the trick. And if there is a gun then u couldnt defend urself, not even with a gun because if u try to pull ur gun he shoots u.

So im thinking making it hard to get a gun prevents this more than equiping everyone with a gun cause the gun doesnt even help u.

 

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ExploringWA hat geschrieben:
wannabeGM21 wrote:
ExploringWA hat geschrieben:
wannabeGM21 wrote:
ExploringWA hat geschrieben:
wannabeGM21 wrote:
Baptistpatriot hat geschrieben:
TheHarbingerOfDoom wrote:
I’m not against guns. I’m just against violence. No doubt everybody in the world who owns a gun has it for a non violent purpose.

Unfortunately, the only way a bad guy with a gun can be stopped is by a good guy with a gun. One of the unfortunate realities of life.

I dont see how a gun helps u against a gun. If u get shot ur dead.U cant defend against the shot, right?

Watch the Kyle Rittenhouse videos. They very clearly show what a good guy with a gun can do against an armed angry mob of repeat violent felons and child pedos. 

a good guy with phone could do the same.

 

I’m curious. If a guy is holding a loaded, cocked, and ready to fire pistol to my head and he is ready to pull the trigger:  I’m not smart enough to figure out what to do with the phone. Will you please explain it to me. 

I meant if there are no guns then calling the Police would do the trick. And if there is a gun then u couldnt defend urself, not even with a gun because if u try to pull ur gun he shoots u.

So im thinking making it hard to get a gun prevents this more than equiping everyone with a gun cause the gun doesnt even help u.

 

You didn’t watch the video, because that is exactly what happened. The kid on the ground in a split second fired his AR at an assailant that had a Glock pointed at his head only inches away. I too wish we lived in a world where bad people didn’t exist. Since we live in this reality, one where bad people have been killing good people for all of human history, I’d assume the pattern will continue. I wish it wasn’t that way, but life is violent. The best way to stop violence is to study it. Try to learn from history. History is pretty clear that those who give up their arms, they will be taken over by those who do not. There is no other way to interpret history. Yes, I’d love to change it, but this is the reality we live in right now. The solution has escaped man for 10,000 years. 

I mean i respect the idea and going from allowing guns to not allowing guns is probably not a good thing cause there would still be way too many guns around and thouse without probably relly would be screwed, but in germany for example i never hear anything about gun shootings while in america it happens like regularly i heard and thats just cause in germany its so hard to get a gun that a gun wouldnt be used for just shootings or minor criminal acts and i think that is just the best way to prevent bad guys with guns.

while i can see that america shouldnt change its laws i still wish that gun would have never been allowed like in the USA, just because as i said making it hard to get a gun is the better option in my opinion.

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Mr-Mudd wrote:
TheBestBeer_Root wrote:

I’m sorry but guns are pathetic and so are every weapon conceived ever.

Guns are good.  And fun.

Back in the late 90’s I was building full auto M16 machine gun pistols for a local law enforcement agency (Olympic Arms, OA93’s). They supplied all of the “test” ammo for function testing the new guns. At one point I calculated there was around 60 tons of lead in the berm behind my shooting pit (7000 grains per pound, and the average bullet weight going into the berm is about 150 grains): It’s a lot of bullets. That was sometime in the mid 2000’s. Now, I have no idea. I feel sorry for people who don’t understand the gun culture. Competitive shooting is by far, easily, the most respectful and inclusive group of any competitive discipline in which I’ve ever competed. 

People don’t know what they are incapable of understanding. It’s not their fault. 

….clearly shows your ignorance regarding violence 

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Mr-Mudd wrote:
TheBestBeer_Root wrote:

I’m sorry but guns are pathetic and so are every weapon conceived ever.

Guns are good.  And fun.

lmao that’s like saying money was a good idea

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….and yet thousands right now somewhere are leaping into dumpsters to eat something left over from some family’s garbage.

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@ExploringWA 

I posted this in my one thread about what would you do to change the world….

 

That perception is only based because you being so shackled to exactly what I wish removed from your perception, your understanding, your acceptance, your belief standards.

 

I am saying had there never been it’s development the nature of civilization in whole would drastically change and that advancement so awesome easily able to remove such a conception as your statement regarding human nature being terrible.

No, you didn’t say that, but this response from me on that thread to a post fits my response here.

 

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Mr-Mudd wrote:
TheBestBeer_Root wrote:

….and yet thousands right now somewhere are leaping into dumpsters to eat something left over from some family’s garbage.

We need to help them.

….my point is had there to begin with been no system such as need OF $ there’d never had been any need for helping anyone.

This is more from my thread, a poster and my response.

 

MainframeSupertasker 
Jan 7, 2020#62
Oh. You mean what if there was not the invention of money to begin with?

You judge the idea by its fruits.

You have an idea about how long a day is. Can you go without a watch? How can you know you're doing things in time? Where's uniformity? Kids come to school at random times during the day. Men come to work at random times. Conferences are shortened. You come to home late after work and get your wife worrying at home. But now, let's introduce a standard, which is uniform, and by which everyone understands and follows, the Clock. All problems solved.

Let's go without money, assumed that we started without the invention of money. Statistically, you will see some people at the far end of the scale suffering, because they "spent too much energy". Remember, you need to work to help yourself and help others. Dont be lazy.

Now lets say for example, the entire African population overworked and now they seeked help from each other. Poor people give help&service to poor people? It's like asking another patient to care for you when you are sick. You'll be suffering for a day, but the lucky countries come to help you within a day. You still suffered. You got helped. The same thing happens to another continent, then they get helped. 

Now lets introduce money and updating systems of suffering and welfare schemes. Problems solved. This way you can know what populations are overbenefiting and oversuffering and equilize them in time before they suffer.

You cannot take away the unit of time, you just need to take care whether you are using time the right way. You cannot take away the unit of value, you just need to take care whether you are using money the right way.
MainframeSupertasker 
Jan 7, 2020#63
Therefore you need a UNIT which is uniform, universally accepted and comprehensible.
TheBestBeer_Root 
 

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Bro bro bro bro bro...... Given there never was money, and not given I just was able to change the world from it’s removal, no one would worry as what you just described. With everyone working for each other, and since the time of money’s history, so many things on Earth would not even had been thought of, such as war, nor racism, nor homelessness because everyone would not be needing anything they weren’t able to receive because of such it’s development working for each other, war never would have been a debate because no one would be seeking control from another nor the ignorance of the harm war completely causes, it’s after affects throughout the life cycle, and racism wouldn’t be some pathetic development because ALL WOULD RECOGNIZE THE FAMILY WE TRULY ARE . Such WOULD be seen ENTIRELY.

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Weapons do not make mankind evil. We need weapons because mankind is evil. Weapons are necessary because we do not live in a perfect world. They are a necessary part of our existence, to maintain the security of the law abiding.

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I’m stating my concern regarding $, if it had never been a system we never would’ve had the absurd violence nor need whatsoever of weapons.

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Mankind invented weapons to defend themselves against mankind O-o

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ignorant, true

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Notice the ridiculous siloette in black on both sides gun handles… gasping absurdities lmao

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