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TheBestBeer_Root wrote:

ignorant, true

yep.

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ExploringWA wrote:
 

Again, AL, I’m not talking about what led to the situation or any political or personal beliefs. I’m only commenting regarding the self defense aspects of the shootings. You keep wanting to make this about anti gun politics. 
The crowd was armed. A violent repeat felon with an illegal handgun tried to kill an innocent teenager who was legally armed with a rifle the law said he was entitled to carry. 

From a purely technical self defense perspective, the gun Kyle chose to legally carry was utilized to fend off a crowd of armed violent felons. It clearly shows the self defense ability of a motivated person who is armed. Politics aside. 

you have an, umm, interesting view of self-defense. you choose to ignore that the kid travelled to wisconsin. he then receives a gun-as a minor-and goes to the middle of a riot. 

you want to make it sound as if he was at home, reading a book (wait, can he even read?) and an intruder busts down the door and comes after him with a machete.

i didn't follow the case closely, but, didn't he say he went there to protect property? how does that work walking down the middle of the street?

that people in the crowd had past convictions is irrelevant. this type of lame reasoning is regularly used to assign blame or guilt today due to past actions.

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He was found innocent on all charges by a jury of his peers. According to the evidence, any other verdict would have been a gross miscarriage of justice. Was what he did leading up to the self defense situation wise? Maybe not. Was it legal? Yes. Was he at fault? No. Will what he did,  though justified, haunt him for the rest of his life? Yes. It is an unimaginable thing to be forced to take a human life, even in defense of your own life. So I say, let the matter rest AL.

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ExploringWA wrote:
AlCzervik wrote:
ExploringWA wrote:
 

Again, AL, I’m not talking about what led to the situation or any political or personal beliefs. I’m only commenting regarding the self defense aspects of the shootings. You keep wanting to make this about anti gun politics. 
The crowd was armed. A violent repeat felon with an illegal handgun tried to kill an innocent teenager who was legally armed with a rifle the law said he was entitled to carry. 

From a purely technical self defense perspective, the gun Kyle chose to legally carry was utilized to fend off a crowd of armed violent felons. It clearly shows the self defense ability of a motivated person who is armed. Politics aside. 

you have an, umm, interesting view of self-defense. you choose to ignore that the kid travelled to wisconsin. he then receives a gun-as a minor-and goes to the middle of a riot. 

you want to make it sound as if he was at home, reading a book (wait, can he even read?) and an intruder busts down the door and comes after him with a machete.

i didn't follow the case closely, but, didn't he say he went there to protect property? how does that work walking down the middle of the street?

that people in the crowd had past convictions is irrelevant. this type of lame reasoning is regularly used to assign blame or guilt today due to past actions.

Your position parrots the talking points of one political party. Here are the facts of the case as witnessed by the entire world so there is no debate:

The judge ruled that Kyle was lawfully in possession of the firearm. 

He was 17 miles from his current residence, but his family was in the town he was protecting. 

He is on video scrubbing graffiti off of walls. 

He is on film putting out fires started by the first assailant he was forced to shoot. The guy was convicted of raping five young boys and was fresh out of a mental hospital. He repeatedly shouted to many witnesses that he was going to kill Kyle. Kyle was leaving the scene when he was assaulted as was determined by a jury. 

What more do you need?  I understand you hate guns, but in that case a U.S. citizen who was repeatedly attacked by a mob of violent felons(all 4 attackers were violent repeat felons), he was wrongfully accused of murder. He was the victim. He was legally armed, while his attackers were unlawfully armed. 

This was a clear cut case of prosecutorial overreach and wrongful prosecution. The victim was further victimized only because he used a firearm to defend himself. 

I just realized you have that pfp I gave you on 😂. Also for background information, what was the mob…..mobbing for?

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/wendy-drive-thru-order-takes-221640234.html     

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Baptistpatriot wrote:

He was found innocent on all charges by a jury of his peers. According to the evidence, any other verdict would have been a gross miscarriage of justice. Was what he did leading up to the self defense situation wise? Maybe not. Was it legal? Yes. Was he at fault? No. Will what he did,  though justified, haunt him for the rest of his life? Yes. It is an unimaginable thing to be forced to take a human life, even in defense of your own life. So I say, let the matter rest AL.

forced? he was not forced to go to wisconsin. 

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ExploringWA wrote:
 

Your position parrots the talking points of one political party.

i am parroting no one, 'ya tool. i'm pointing out that your view of what is self defense is quite skewed. 

if anyone shows their extreme political lean here, it is you.

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you can't follow a simple conversation. do you bother reading and ingesting thoughts that aren't from the characters that inhabit your head?

rhetorical question. go back to [edited moderator SB] yourself.

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I think a lot of people don’t like guns because of all the dead bodies you get around them.
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Eh, there are too many people anyways.

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/man-charged-murder-gunned-down-162719310.html    

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AlCzervik wrote:
Baptistpatriot wrote:

He was found innocent on all charges by a jury of his peers. According to the evidence, any other verdict would have been a gross miscarriage of justice. Was what he did leading up to the self defense situation wise? Maybe not. Was it legal? Yes. Was he at fault? No. Will what he did,  though justified, haunt him for the rest of his life? Yes. It is an unimaginable thing to be forced to take a human life, even in defense of your own life. So I say, let the matter rest AL.

forced? he was not forced to go to wisconsin. 

I suggest you read my whole post before you take one phrase out of context just to attempt to prove a moot point. The fact of the matter is, it happened, and he was forced to shoot someone in self defense. And if you think that he should be prosecuted for going somewhere of his own free will, then you are a nut. It's that simple.

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Baptist, and a patriot. Even though the dead Jew said HIS kingdom is not of this world. What an archetypically American concoction. And no, please don't take my words as criticism ... I'm only fascinated by different cultures.

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Baptist he wasn’t forced to shoot anyone. He assumed they would kill him purely because he was prepared to kill them. You don’t know what would have happened if he hadn’t fired. Do you think if he had gone out with out a gun anyone would have been died?
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@CannedAsparagus if you were really interested in other cultures you would try to learn about them, instead of stereotyping them. Just a thought.

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Lmao
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Baptistpatriot wrote:

@CannedAsparagus if you were really interested in other cultures you would try to learn about them, instead of stereotyping them. Just a thought.

How did I stereotype the American culture?

I sit all day long on my a$$ and read Americans talking about their country ... Again, how did I stereotype you?

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She was hungry.

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Hungry for Love??  This thread has reached a new low, (even for this site).  I didn't think that possible.  Surprise, surprise, the macabre sets new standards. 

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I have never had a gun, nor do I want one
Well I did have a nurff gun when I was younger and a catapult but only for tin cans

I carry a staff for defence
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