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DelightfulLiberty wrote:
132J wrote:

That is a hurtful statement to every single person who suffered or died in the Holocaust and all their family members who have to live knowing that half their family died.

I don't know how you're able to speak for so many people, but your emotions are up to you.

I intended no offence, and I explained the point of analogy.

You obviously don’t care. I cannot put into words what it seems like to have a whole extermination of a race being compared to much, much, much less upsetting and disturbing and sad topics. Repulsive.

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132J wrote:

How would you feel if you have very little cousins because their grandparents died in the Holocaust? You could of compare it to anything else but not this.

Jewish groups would be ashamed of your actions. Actually all decent people would too.

I would feel exactly the same.

I suspect at this point you are weaponising this topic in an attempt to lock the thread, generate phony outrage, or attack me personally.

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DelightfulLiberty wrote:
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ValentinoE3 wrote:

Not sure why this thread was created, DelightfulLiberty should have known that lots of negative people would jump on. I support the lgbtq+ community, but come on trying to put a "positive thread" for them on this website would never work.

and it sucks because i really want to feel more welcome to post here but im worried about people coming at me just because im trans. thats part of what made me leave the site for several months

Without doubt you will be the target of hatespeech, slurs, mockery and what not, if you try and post anything pro-trans.

If you have a thick skin and want to post anyway, then you'll have my support. But many here will hound you. This is not a welcoming space for lgbtq+ folk.

Just look at some other threads. There are clubs though.

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DelightfulLiberty wrote:
132J wrote:

How would you feel if you have very little cousins because their grandparents died in the Holocaust? You could of compare it to anything else but not this.

Jewish groups would be ashamed of your actions. Actually all decent people would too.

I would feel exactly the same.

I suspect at this point you are weaponising this topic in an attempt to lock the thread, generate phony outrage, or attack me personally.

I’m leaving this topic. Phony outrage? There’s another one. Attack you personally? You attacked my people, my family, and my friends.

Don’t try to shift the blame. You said what you said and you’re trying to squirm away from it. Just accepting what you said and apologizing for it would

solve all problems. Yet it’s been 20 minutes and we’re here trying to turn the ship from port. With leeward winds.

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132J wrote:
 

I’m leaving this topic. Phony outrage? There’s another one. Attack you personally? You attacked my people, my family, and my friends.

Don’t try to shift the blame. You said what you said and you’re trying to squirm away from it. Just accepting what you said and apologizing for it would

solve all problems. Yet it’s been 20 minutes and we’re here trying to turn the ship from port. With leeward winds.

There's no blame shift or squirming.

I totally acknowledge what I said, don't apologise for it, and think I was right to say what I said.

I think you misunderstood and acted badly out of a misplaced emotion which you tried to weaponise. I stand by that comment also, and don't apologise, and believe I am correct.

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@Tee I will be nice to anyone as well as I can, unless you advertise constantly that you are. If you don’t, you are completely welcome here!
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Starwarsnerd212 wrote:
@Tee I will be nice to anyone as well as I can, unless you advertise constantly that you are. If you don’t, you are completely welcome here!

I dont understand this.

You will be nice so long as someone doesn't say they're trans, or post trans positive topics?

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No i said if they don’t constantly advertise that
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Starwarsnerd212 wrote:
@Tee I will be nice to anyone as well as I can, unless you advertise constantly that you are. If you don’t, you are completely welcome here!

Your comments in this topic have not been supportive though... you said "wow another one of these" and you told DL "maybe you should stop making these topics" and then said "there is no hope here I'm leaving."

If you have no problem with it being mentioned in a supportive way then why were all your comments negative?

If I were @tee you'd be one of the reasons I wouldn't want to post here.

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ValentinoE3 wrote:

Honestly these threads simply don't accomplish anything other than making those whom its supposed to benefit afraid to speak up, because of all the negative people threads like these attract

So you think it's better if everyone just avoid anything lgbtq+ positive, because otherwise the bigots will post and then people will realise just how many haters are on this site?

Fair enough. I think that a terrible approach.

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Starwarsnerd212 wrote:
No i said if they don’t constantly advertise that

Apparently to you, mentioning it even once is too much...

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Ummm when did I say that
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Starwarsnerd212 wrote:
Ummm when did I say that

Right now they're posts 60, 66, and 82.

Why is it hard for children to remember what they said 5 minutes ago...

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DelightfulLiberty wrote:
132J wrote:
 

I’m leaving this topic. Phony outrage? There’s another one. Attack you personally? You attacked my people, my family, and my friends.

Don’t try to shift the blame. You said what you said and you’re trying to squirm away from it. Just accepting what you said and apologizing for it would

solve all problems. Yet it’s been 20 minutes and we’re here trying to turn the ship from port. With leeward winds.

There's no blame shift or squirming.

I totally acknowledge what I said, don't apologise for it, and think I was right to say what I said.

I think you misunderstood and acted badly out of a misplaced emotion which you tried to weaponise. I stand by that comment also, and don't apologise, and believe I am correct.

What the heck. That is what a neo-nazi or a racist bigot would say. That is immensely disrespectful to so many people. Don’t apologize for your repulsive comment on how the Holocaust- the systematic extermination of 6million Jews and many Poles, Slavs, Russians, Roma, Christians, political opponents, and the ordinary innocent civilian. You have the nerve to say that and compare it to a power struggle and say hateful things about other’s religions and yet you still so t apologize and think what you said was right???!!! Unbelievably pathetic, disgusting, repulsive, childish, and frankly a racist comment.

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Ok llama I said she should stop posting these because they ALWAYS end up like this. I said wow another of these becuz they’re like 3 or 4 in the past few days. And I said there is no hope I’m leaving was because the point of arguing is usually to convince some1, and it doesn’t look like y’all are going to be convinced
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ValentinoE3 wrote:

Did I say anything about "anything lgbtq+ positive"? That positivity is great and greatly needed in society, but all I'm saying is that starting a thread on chess.com for that purpose will often have the opposite effect and bring negativity instead. I simply think there are better ways of bringing to fruition this positivity you, I, and the entire lgbtq+ community seek.

So post anywhere but chess.com.

Why is chess.com the wrong place for a Pride thread?

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Llama I never said I would hate y’all for bringing it up once. I just explained why I said those three posts just now
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Here we go again.. this has already been established! Read your own thread for Pete’s sake.

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I don’t hate any of y’all. I just think y’all are misguided 🤷‍♂️
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